Attacking and Defensive Arrows ?

[Hunter]

I'm wondering whether they've removed this feature from the game. They were in PES6 as you simply pressed "Individual" I think it was and manually chose how attacking you wanted certain players to be, and how much they were to defend (high, medium and low arrows).

But I just can't find them on PES 2008, they definetely exist as you can view them by pressing RT (R2) I think in the Formations screen, however I don't think you can change them yourself.

Can someone confirm this, or help me out here.

Thanks.

 

[deanos63]

i don't know about this game anymore. it wouldn't suprise me if they removed it.

 

[Dragonfly]

It is in the game.

For the Xbox360:

Set formation > Edit > You should see the image of the pitch with the dots in position > Above the pitch their should be the word "Edit", with "RT" and "LT" either side of it > Click RT to move to the attacking arrows page.

I'm not looking at the game as I type this and it's from the top of the head, so there may be an error or two, but I'm sure I'm correct.

 

[Hunter]

I can't thank you enough mate, me and my friend were dumbfounded when we thought Konami removed yet another feature. I'd rep you but it says I have to spread it, strange considering I haven't repped anyone for over a month I don't think.

 

[Dragonfly]

No problem man. I'd be distraught if that was removed from the game. Those arrows are a major part of my tactics and playing style.

You need to rep more often to rep when you want.

 

[Hunter]

I, like yourself, enjoy the tactial element of the game, I very often spend up the time limit tweaking my formation and choosing the right players for my team. Many people simply choose the players with the best graph/stats, but I base mine more on their Teamwork when you press "Y" to view it all. Obviously stats and ability play a part, but Teamwork is my main concern at the moment.

 

[Dragonfly]

I, like yourself, enjoy the tactial element of the game, I very often spend up the time limit tweaking my formation and choosing the right players for my team. Many people simply choose the players with the best graph/stats, but I base mine more on their Teamwork when you press "Y" to view it all. Obviously stats and ability play a part, but Teamwork is my main concern at the moment.

Whenever I play people, they get impatient with my tinkering.

 

[riahc3]

It is in the game.

For the Xbox360:

Set formation > Edit > You should see the image of the pitch with the dots in position > Above the pitch their should be the word "Edit", with "RT" and "LT" either side of it > Click RT to move to the attacking arrows page.

I'm not looking at the game as I type this and it's from the top of the head, so there may be an error or two, but I'm sure I'm correct.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I WAS TEARING MY HAIR OUT SEARCHING FOR THIS!!!

Whenever I play people, they get impatient with my tinkering.

Me too My teams are France then Arsenal.

 

[Zygalski]

This option is in the PS2 version too, under Individual as before.

 

[kronz21]

No problem man. I'd be distraught if that was removed from the game. Those arrows are a major part of my tactics and playing style.

You need to rep more often to rep when you want.

i think i have a good idea but what exactly do the attacking arrows mean? that's the way the player runs when my team attacks?? also what does the defensive level mean(low,mid,high). exspecally for center backs what does this mean??

also if you give a center back an attacking arrow forward does he attack? also what if you give a fd or md no arrow at all?? does he just play like a free role??

 

[Dragonfly]

The direction the attacking arrows point will determine the direction a player runs, as long as the play is going that way too. For example, if a central midfielder (CMF) positioned on the kick-off spot has an arrow pointing back towards his own goal (either straight back or at an angle), he will run back to help his defence when the opposition attacks. Conversely, if the CMF's attacking arrow is facing forwards, towards the opposition's defence (either straight forwards or at an angle), the CMF will join in with attacks in the direction of the arrow. If the CMF has arrows pointing to the left or/and right, the player will drift out wide when the ball does.

If you don't give the player any arrows, they will usually stay around their zone. You can see what zone they will cover when you edit position and when you select a player when picking your line-up. When you edit position, you notice a box around the player/dot - this is his zone. Their zone is determined by the role/position they're given (i.e. CF, AMF, SMF, CB etc).

As for the defensive level, this simply tells you what mindset the player will be in:

Low - The player will be inclined to neglect any defensive duties and will not drop back (unless given arrows to do so). So, defenders will keep a high line, midfielders won't track back and strikers will stay far up the pitch.

Medium - The player will be neutral and if he has no arrows, he will stay in his zone.

High - The player will help out with the defence a lot, even if they have arrows pointing to attack. For example, lets take a wing forward (WF) who has high defence with an attacking arrow pointing forwards. If the opposition has the ball, the WF will always stay behind the ball, therefore being in a defensive mindset. However, when your team starts to attack in whichever direction the WF's attack arrow is pointing, then the WF will make runs in that direction.

I think that pretty much covers it. I remember there used to be an in-screen guide when doing formations, but I couldn't find it in this edition.

 

[Juice-F]

I'm wondering whether they've removed this feature from the game. They were in PES6 as you simply pressed "Individual" I think it was and manually chose how attacking you wanted certain players to be, and how much they were to defend (high, medium and low arrows).

But I just can't find them on PES 2008, they definetely exist as you can view them by pressing RT (R2) I think in the Formations screen, however I don't think you can change them yourself.

Can someone confirm this, or help me out here.

Thanks.

hey man its kinda hidden, go to set formation then to edit positions, press the l2 or r2 button to toggle between editing positions, attacking and defensive arrows. this goes for Xbox 360, PC, PS3 and PS2 versions of the game

 

[wowie]

The direction the attacking arrows point will determine the direction a player runs, as long as the play is going that way too. For example, if a central midfielder (CMF) positioned on the kick-off spot has an arrow pointing back towards his own goal (either straight back or at an angle), he will run back to help his defence when the opposition attacks. Conversely, if the CMF's attacking arrow is facing forwards, towards the opposition's defence (either straight forwards or at an angle), the CMF will join in with attacks in the direction of the arrow. If the CMF has arrows pointing to the left or/and right, the player will drift out wide when the ball does.

If you don't give the player any arrows, they will usually stay around their zone. You can see what zone they will cover when you edit position and when you select a player when picking your line-up. When you edit position, you notice a box around the player/dot - this is his zone. Their zone is determined by the role/position they're given (i.e. CF, AMF, SMF, CB etc).

As for the defensive level, this simply tells you what mindset the player will be in:

Low - The player will be inclined to neglect any defensive duties and will not drop back (unless given arrows to do so). So, defenders will keep a high line, midfielders won't track back and strikers will stay far up the pitch.

Medium - The player will be neutral and if he has no arrows, he will stay in his zone.

High - The player will help out with the defence a lot, even if they have arrows pointing to attack. For example, lets take a wing forward (WF) who has high defence with an attacking arrow pointing forwards. If the opposition has the ball, the WF will always stay behind the ball, therefore being in a defensive mindset. However, when your team starts to attack in whichever direction the WF's attack arrow is pointing, then the WF will make runs in that direction.

I think that pretty much covers it. I remember there used to be an in-screen guide when doing formations, but I couldn't find it in this edition.

best post i've seen here... period. thx a lot man

 

[mn9ajas]

Wicked!

I missed this thread but I'm so glad someone replied so that I could see it. Its been doing my head in for ages as well. I can finally stop my stupid defenders running in odd directions with my formation setup!