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I Can't Decide If I Like The New PES More Than The Old?

WabeWalker

Registered User
Wow. I'm really undecided about this new PES.

I've just this minute finished playing a game of Pro Evolution 2007, having spent most of the evening toying with the new demo of the 2008 edition.

At least on my PC (3GHZ P4, 1GB RAM, 7950GT 512 OC) the two titles are shockingly different.

The 2007 edition is outrageously fun to play - it's so smooth and so quick; there are times during gameplay when you're just giddy with excitement.

The 2008 edition, on the other hand, plays a much more realistic game of football - the pace is generally much slower; no longer can you simply pass the ball to a superb dribbler and hit the gass and tear up the field for a cross to one of your forwards, or for a last second through-ball, or for a shot on net. Rather, in this new version you really have to work the ball. I've found that your team-mates take much longer to support you, meaning that you have to buy time and cross the ball from one side of the pitch to the other, and then advance - or, alternatively, just go route one right away to one of your strikers, and hope for the best. (I'm kind of surprised at how effective route one has been! The opposition closes in on you pretty damned quickly, but when you do break free from a long ball it's damned exciting! On more than one occasion I found myself shouting out loud at my monitor.)

I'm guessing that a lot of people, used to the old engine, are going to be shocked at how slow this new game is - it just goes to show, however, that previous versions of this series were a lot more 'gamey' than some enthusiasts were maybe willing to admit. (Let's face it, in the real world even professional players get tired pretty damned quickly - all this business about riding the acceleration button the entire time is really just a lot of nonsense.)

The thing is, I'm still not sure whether 'more realistic' translates into 'more fun'?

I've played the demo about thirty times now. All I can say is that I keep on seeing new things - some of the mistakes being made, both by myself and by the A.I., have resulted in some of the funnest goals I've ever scored (or had scored upon me). The graphics in this year's version are obviously superior, and this is particularly evident when you turn your player 180 degrees to shoot on net - it's a very realistic animation. Also, if you haven't actually played the game yet, wait until you score your first goal - the way that the ball interacts with the net, and the way that the netting bounces around when the ball gets shot into it, is simply one of the most amazing sights to behold in all of gaming. The net physics are the best I've seen in any game, period. (I can't believe I just wrote that.)

And yet, somehow, last year's version still charms the pants off me in a way that this year's doesn't.

I'll be damned if I can figure out what's going on here though?

That said, if you were to tell me that the game was in stock at my local software store right now, I'd be up and out of this chair in an instant. It's kind of odd that I've been complaining for so long about this game needing a face lift, but now that it's got one I find myself not completely satisfied by it. Is my middle name Ungrateful or what?

Or maybe I just need more time to absorb the mechanics of this new game? Or maybe I need to have the retail version in my hands! Like how about right now!
 

WabeWalker

Registered User
Oh, and by the way, I live in Canada - there's no word yet as to when, or even if, this game will be available for me to purchase.

* insert a massive frowny face right here *

You lot over there in the U.K. are spoiled by your football. You wankers.
 

MatTheCat

Registered User
PES6 (2007) Meh.....

Was the only PES that I had completely stopped playing by Christmas...

Unrealistic Scripted Rubbish With Defensive Holes in The AI as Wide as The Channel Tunnel.......

As for PES 2008.....
Everyone mumps and moans and complains like hell about the latest PES to begin with......But trust me, whilst there are still the same old ProEvo flaws and limitations that many hoped would have been ironed out on the suppossed Next Gen release, PES2008 is by far the most sophisticated footy game ever released.....The opportunity for adventure and creativity in the last 1/3rd of the field is phenomenal.
 

greenegg

I drink your Milkshake
You lot over there in the U.K. are spoiled by your football. You wankers.

Perhaps if you cut the Apron strings from Mommy America and did your own thing then you could get into Football. As it stands you are owned by the Yanks and have to do as they do and thus "Soccer" doesn't feature too heavily. However I would like to just say Carlo Corazzin and Jason Bent, thanks.
 

endo7

Registered User
You lot over there in the U.K. are spoiled by your football. You wankers.

really feel this part of the message wasnt needed. But to answer you, since we are the country who invented football, youd think that we are entitled to be "spoiled"
 

WabeWalker

Registered User
That was supposed to be a joke. I suppose it was my fault for not having inserted the smiley face emoticon. I apologize for that. I didn't mean to offend you. You wanker. :)

I'd like to amend my original post.

I said that I've had 'some' success going route one - now that I've played another twenty games I have to say that I've had ridiculous amounts of success going route one. I'm getting way too many chances simply from putting the ball into the air as soon as one of my midfielders intercepts it.

I've scored at least ten breakaway goals - and this at the highest level of difficulty.

Something is definitely wrong here.
 
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