- I wanna apologise to WE7 fans - !!!

[CtrlAltDel]

the ps2 could handle the calculation of what you mentioned in letter f

we/pes barely use the limits of the ps2 hardware

have you seen gran tourismo 4? even that is spec'd to use up to only 80% and gt3 is stated to use 30-40% of the ps2 hardware.

also to the ntsc/pal debate

if you even mod your ps2 to play pal games, what it does is modifiy the pal game to ntsc to work on your ntsc tv

so people saying that pal games are looking better than the ntsc games they have is a little bit of a stretch since your tv is ntsc (for us in the US)

i've only played we6 and pes3 and they are both great games
defiantely thinking about we7 too

i like pes3 'cause i can play it on my pc and i like playing games more there than on the ps2...my computer is great and computer games look better than console games anyway (pes3 at 1280x1024 with maxed graphics is sexy)

we7 in the us will be a nice thing

 

[Milosh]

Thanks for that CtrlALt Del

The handling of PS2 is posted in the linked tread, as I stated.

And it is not the handling that you are talking about. It is about 360 degree movements and why only 8way movement has been used in computer games, not for PS2, but for XBOX and PC as well. Read the post again.

Sliding occurs due to programmers lack to , or irresponsibility to do certain things.
g) Sliding Occurs when there are not enough Keyframes implemented and the foot's offset XYZ value is not kept constant.
h) Videogames using Motion Capture that is not "cleaned up" by a Traditional Animator has sliding.

Since the sliding doesn't exist in WE7 and PES3 demo and beta PS2 handles that very good.
I think you are talking about hangdling in this sense and
I agree with you and I'm sure that full potential of PS2 hasn't been used in terms of graphics, AI, details, sound etc...

GP4 looks great. Can't wait the full version

 

[Winning 11]

Both of you seem like some sort of an experts.. so I won`t even debate on this PS2 thing. My final word is both games are good. Some people like PES3 more than they do WE7 and some the oposite. BUT, I bet you in like 2020 when PS2 and PS3 become old and some new (unknown console) is released with the best technology we will all laugh at PES3 and WE7 they will suck..it will be like comparing the old ISS 64' to WE7..

 

[Milosh]

"BUT, I bet you in like 2020 when PS2 and PS3 become old and some new (unknown console) is released with the best technology we will all laugh at PES3 and WE7 they will suck..it will be like comparing the old ISS 64' to WE7.."

Thats true mate, but I think I will still put them in the tray and play em even after 20 years, like I do today with good old Goal! and Sensible Soccer...

And not to forget,

Happy New Years Mate, and all others, I wish you all the best, hopefully WE or PES will be online so we can play together...

Cheers...

 

[Winning 11]

same to ya bro.. you`re right old games are good.. I still play Super Mario Bros

 

[ColdER]

Dino Dini's GOAL! is very good football game , imho ..

 

[larsson]

Dino Dini's GOAL! is very good football game , imho ..

yeah, still play it on my old amiga sometimes, same as sensible soccer