Those stupid arrows...

[Franko]

Ok, please someone agree with me...
I like playing the game as if it was the real thing; I try to play with the players that line up in the 11 in real life, I set some options to Random such as stadium, weather, ball, AND THOSE STUPID DAMN CONDITION ARROWS!
So my problem is this...I'm playing against a friend, suddenly I feel the need to kick his ass with Huntelaar in Ajax...so I pick that team and for my surprise Huntelaar's arrow is pointing soooo damn down!Like grey really down!So I ask you...should there REALLY be that damn condition randomness?Like...it's cool when all players are with the green arrow and one of your forwards is with is arrow straight up so you have some advantage over their defense...
Now if I play with the arrows straight up, everyone is in advantage, so at the same time no one is in advantage at all...Arrows are cool to rotate players in the bench that would never go in if your whole team was in shape...but it's also frustrating when you play random and your star player is doooown...first I made a promise to myself that I would NEVER restart a game just because of the team status, because it happens in real life, but it's also crap when your undiscussable 11 cannot line up...
Now...what do the arrows mean?How can a player that practices 5 days a weak can be not in shape?I just don't get it...
I think the solution would be not set them to random...not set them to red/yellow, but set them to AT LEAST green, mantaining yellow and red random so there would be some players that would feel like...inspired and the others would just playing a regular game...no?

 

[Dragonfly]

Yes, there should be a conditions arrow, but whenever I play friendlies, I put it up to red, so that every player, on both teams are at their best.

 

[hitmanuk2k]

If you choose random condition, that is exactly what you get. Personally I prefer to play on Normal condition (green).

 

[Gun_Runner]

I put it to red so everyones at their best...

although Konami should sort some things out...

first the 'accumulated fatigue' is just nonsense, players, who can go through a whole season of tough football are suddenly fucked after 4 games!

secondly, in cup matches, you just win a semi-final so all your team should be delighted, then you go into the final and all their arrows are down! wtf!

thirdly and this only applies to WE10, they should sort the keepers out, world class keepers such as Cech & Buffon cant hold the ball, you hit an average power shot from outside the box and the fumble it in all sorts of directions-its just unrealistic...I hit a feeble shot into Kahn and he fucked up and pushed it into his own net like a complete moron!

 

[Kewell[AUS]]

I always play green, so everyone is true to their normal stats.

Everything else distorts the stats.

 

[Kevthedrummer]

Yeah I'm with Franko on this, it is hugely frustrating. It's only good when a couple of your best players are in top form but that usually means you lose a few. My bro wont let me put it on the green arrow setting even though it would even it up a little. Uusually the one with the weaker players loses because of the rotation needed for the condidtion arrows.

 

[martin_cranie]

first the 'accumulated fatigue' is just nonsense, players, who can go through a whole season of tough football are suddenly fucked after 4 games!

This point alone sums up why I'm getting annoyed with PES5. Unrealistic crap like this and not being able to improve a players agility, mentality, condition, consistency, and weaker foot options.

I accept that the mediocre improvements in gameplay owe much to the limitations of the PS2 and that official licences aren't always easy to obtain but there's no excuse for errors like those mentioned above.

 

[Franko]

I accept that the mediocre improvements in gameplay owe much to the limitations of the PS2 and that official licences aren't always easy to obtain but there's no excuse for errors like those mentioned above.

Yeh, except for lazyness I guess...this is not the only problem that has nothing to do with PS2 limitations...it's the same thing when I chose Random Stadium, playing with Spain against...let's say Italy shouting: "TORRES HAS THE RED ARROW YAHOO!" then when the game loads I see the training grounds and feel like shooting myself :|
But I don't want to make this another "I hate pes5 because... thread"
I chose random stadium to rotate them all...but this could be easilly solved!
***READ THIS KONAMI***
Whenever the game was finished, you could chose "Play again with different teams"...then a pop-up with the teams, then a pop-up with the ball, then a pop-up with the Stadium including pressing :square: for a random choice, then :x: to kit menu...
Hopefully some konami guy will read my post and think it's not such a bad idea...please?