Gunplay, please don`t call me a prick or a newbie, I`ve been around the boards , not only this one probably longer than you but this is the problem. People always complain, and it will probably stay that way. You have to understand something. You`re playing a video-game, and what Konami is trying to do is make sure that you can play that game as you were playing with real human players. It`s really pointless saying that headers are too hard, when in WE7IJ or WE7 they were easy to perform. And OBI - I really don`t care about you losing 50 pounds, nobody forced you to buy the game, and certanly Konami didn`t force you to buy it. People have been complaining to Konami for years because they couldn`t play online and did Konami listen ?, the answer is no. And the another story that is pissing the hell out of me is random people coming here and making fake reports about PES4 being online , and they are the ones who can`t afford to modify their PS2`s and play WE8, I mean wouldn`t that bother you.