Why PES 2010 is still such a lousy game

[simononestop]

so what other video games are actually realistic!!

 

[jonny5985]

Tech Skill....


If you wasn't so angry, you'd be able to read my post properly. I'll explain again, but this time read it slowly....

I never said i didn't like the 360 movement on Fifa10. I said, the CPU AI makes it quite ineffective because they are over aggressive ( a bit like you), and that fact coupled with the small pitch size makes time on the ball, a complete no-no. The 360 movement might be smoother on Fifa, but on PES i don't get bulldozed out the way, every time i decide to take a touch. Right have you understood that? Moving on...


Ping Pong passing...Again it's down to pitch size and over aggressive AI. You could actually use ping pong passing on practically every footy game if you wished, but on Fifa, it's quite hard not to. The smallness of the pitch coupled with the game speed and over aggressive AI makes turns the game into a ping pong paradise. How you can't see that is beyond me.

The problem doesn't exist so much with PES because a) - the passing isn't as accurate 100% of the time - like Fifa b) - the ball doesn't travel as fast, c) the pitch is big enough to handle it - there is greater distance between players and d) - there is no over aggressive CPU AI rushing me into hitting the x button/or rushing me into using the sprint button.

Next point. Break-neck speed. Again an issue with the pitch size in Fifa10. It's too small. It wouldn't be a problem if the game speed was slower. Yes player movement can be fast on PES, however the pitch is big enough to cope with it, and again because the AI isn't playing Rugby, you can slow the game down. Infact you can have an enjoyable game hardly touching the sprint button.

Goalkeepers. Yes they are shit on PES. I haven't had the glitch that you had...sorry if that doesn't make me as hardcore as you. They are just as shit on Fifa.


I actually can't believe you moan about me talking shit when you had the cheek to come out and claim EA had fixed most of the issues with a patch. You said - "FIFA IS BUGGED TO FUCK! ESPECIALLY WITHOUT UPDATES! (Most if not all of the bugs you mentioned are actually fixed in updates)". And you say i don't know what i'm talking about. Here's a biscuit you fucking numpty.

You also keep batting on about 'a realistic game of football' despite the fact i said that would be a terrible thing. A realistic game of football would involve long spells where fuck all happens and 40-50% of goals coming from set pieces. You're not even capable of explaining any of your points. Your posts translate to 'I'm right, you're wrong'
You're an internet warrior. It's ok, we get it.

 

[EnglishSnake]

+1 pwned

 

[prabi]

lol
jeez

tbh ive been playing pes 2010 since release ,a dn i played fifas demos. i liked pes more BUT the gameplay on fifa was better. However im going to get Fifa 10 , and keep PES10 dont get me wrong i think its a great game in its own way, defo the best looking footie game. But i want to give Fifa more of a chance , so im mite trade cod5 for it [MW2 rocks by the way] .

i agree with some points of tech hes right .
Konami have had two years to sort out this problem . Kudos to them for making brilliant grahpics , but the animations and gameplay needs to be imporved , compared to fifa that is.

Now after playing MW2 which is completly different genre ,BUT you see it has advanced soo much in FPS . better graphics , animations , improvements. DEFO
next gen.

This what konami shoud have done with the pro series as soon as they fucked up on pes08 .
Fifa learnt its lesson of being owned on ps2 .
I AM espeically annoyed with the Liscensing . Why the fuck should fans be doing konamis job of doing shit load of editing. seriously all these option files feels as if the game is uncomplete.
2009 was a complete joke.

And you HAVE what i said before " PRO DEVOLUTION SOCCER" . they had licsend players and players in previous game , why unliscens them [mexico] .
and getting rid of the system data option files.

dont get me wrong im a solid PES fan but it seriously needs to wake up much more, theyve taken a step in the right direction this year. i look foward to next year.

pes is still a fun game AND people have said its much more fun than FIFA
but thats some opinions.
But im gonna give more chance to FIFA 10 to see what the fuss is about.

so i will have both .

theres my rant lol

 

[Tech_Skill]

Tech Skill....

If you wasn't so angry, you'd be able to read my post properly. I'll explain again, but this time read it slowly....

I never said i didn't like the 360 movement on Fifa10. I said, the CPU AI makes it quite ineffective because they are over aggressive ( a bit like you), and that fact coupled with the small pitch size makes time on the ball, a complete no-no. The 360 movement might be smoother on Fifa, but on PES i don't get bulldozed out the way, every time i decide to take a touch. Right have you understood that? Moving on...

1) You obviously dont play on top player, the CPU in PES is notiourious for fucking rushing players. It's a fucking disgrace to fucking sit there and pretend it doesnt happen in PES.

2) Your shit at fifa, because I can find space in the midfield and get time, you get bulldozed out of the way cos your a skirt wearing football virgin, a part timer, and you have no buisness playing serious football games at a high level. If i saw your jailbait arse trying to play a game of fifa, id fucking bulldoze you out the way too, now man up and close your legs.

Ping Pong passing...Again it's down to pitch size and over aggressive AI. You could actually use ping pong passing on practically every footy game if you wished, but on Fifa, it's quite hard not to. The smallness of the pitch coupled with the game speed and over aggressive AI makes turns the game into a ping pong paradise. How you can't see that is beyond me....

Very simple response.

If size of pitch and over agressiveness of the AI causes Ping pong passing. Do me favour.

Put the fucking game on MANUAL, and see if you can ping pong it about on target. LMAO

MANUAL makes it harder to ping pong because you have alot more control of the pass and have to be accurate on the power bar rather than just Pressing A 50 times.


CPU Automated controls enhance ping pong passing. Dicked, go and play every fucking version of PES ever made, you can ping pong on pretty much all of them because the passing is completely CPU assisted, its a one button press, less room for error.

Manual is a different story. lol.

The problem doesn't exist so much with PES because a) - the passing isn't as accurate 100% of the time - like Fifa

So now we know you deffo dont play fifa, one min you couldnt make space without getting bulldosed, next min you can pass with accuracy. Simple answer

Manual motherfucker.

Here's a breakdown

PES= CPU AUTOMATED= MUCH LESS CONTROL OVER WEIGHT OF PASS= PRESS A 50 TIMES AND THE CPU MAKE THE BALL GO WHERE IT WANTS

FIFA 10= MANUAL PASSING= MORE CONTROL OVER WEIGHT OF PASS, GENERALLY LESS ACCURACY THAN CPU AUTOMATED PASSING

b) - the ball doesn't travel as fast,

Are you mad? the ball travels faster in fifa than in PES? You can't be serious right? Get back to me on that, if the answer is yes, you need to call the samaritians.

c) the pitch is big enough to handle it -

What the fuck is it with you and 'big pitches' do you sit there with a ruler measuring the pitch to get over the fact you got a dick the size of a walnut?

Next point. Break-neck speed. Again an issue with the pitch size in Fifa10. It's too small. It wouldn't be a problem if the game speed was slower.

Ok, im gonna stop reading soon, this is another shocker

EVER HEARD OF THE SPEED SETTING IN FIFA?

You just turn it to 'slow'

And there.

The game is slower

Before telling me FIFA on 'slow' is too fast compared to PES2010, hang youself with your Dual Shock.......quietly, no one wants to hear you, your a fucking waste of air.

Goalkeepers. Yes they are shit on PES. I haven't had the glitch that you had...sorry if that doesn't make me as hardcore as you. They are just as shit on Fifa.

On pes, they let the ball go through them into the net, even if its a back pass from the CPU...........nuff said. lmao.

Thats enough now, again, your some part time gamer who has a fetish for measuring the pitch sizes, good luck with that, but to me, your a football game virgin, so fucking do one before I pop your cherry for you.

 

[Baddar]

I don't mind you making points TS, but stop being so aggressive.

EDIT: And johnny, stop flaming. If the board wasn't playing up tonight, you'd have been banned by now.

 

[bluechampion]

Tech_skill

You're completely deluded and you have a lot of time on your hand. That's a dangerous combination.

Others,

No point in talking to him. He just doesn't get it. All that he can do is be very stupid and use abusive language. He thinks he knows his football and let him live his own paradise.

Peace.

 

[NoName4ever]

@Tech_Skill : Boo hoo! Go cry some where lady! You're fucking owned here!

Anyway, FIFA 2010 is a waste of money. PES 2010 is great as it comes back to more realistic.

 

[Tech_Skill]

I don't mind you making points TS, but stop being so aggressive.

Come on Baddar, he is a cretin, he actually said the ball travels slower in pes than it does in fifa. LMAO

He said FIFA would be okay if game speed was slower, but forgot fifa has an option to make the game speed 'slow'......hahahah

Let me just go and re-read that shit.

Unreal.

I hope he's playing fifa now, trying to ping pong pass on manual controls, lets see if he can do it. It's all down to the size of the pitch and opposing AI you know. lol.

 

[bluechampion]

It's all down to the size of the pitch and opposing AI you know. lol.

I fully agree with Jonny5985. It is also about the size of the pitch. What's wrong with that argument? You make such ridiculous statements and force people to respond like you have done now. There is one non-abusive word for it - TROLL.

 

[Tech_Skill]

I fully agree with Jonny5985. It is also about the size of the pitch. What's wrong with that argument? You make such ridiculous statements and force people to respond like you have done now. There is one non-abusive word for it - TROLL.

You cretin... Pitch size and AI are not the only factors.

TRY AND PING PONG PASS ON MANUAL ON FIFA 10, THEN USE THE A BUTTON TO PING PONG ON PES

Go on..... do it now.

See what happens.

(Fuck, its like talking to 2 year olds, this moron obviously hasnt read my posts and cant understand how manual passing makes its harder to ping pong)

 

[Baddar]

Right, the easiest thing to do is to just close the thread. I'll be going off soon and can't be arsed coming back to pages of flaming tomorrow.

Take your debate to PM/MSN. Don't bother with it here. It's fair game until insults are thrown into it, like they are being now.

 

[Sweey]

Tech_Skill and jonny5985 both banned for 24 hours due to different reasons.

Tech_Skill, I'm beyond fed up with your constant swearing and goading. Learn to communicate properly or leave.