GoalKeepers...

[Gaffa08]

But its like I said, maybe the condition of players make allot more difference in this PES? Maybe it goes deeper than we think? Confidence seems to play a big factor in the PES series.

If you went to bed a 5am, stayed up for the whole night and had a football match at 9am, but you felt like shit, no confidence whatsoever, would you dive at the strikers feet? I know I wouldn't... But what I'm trying to say is maybe the keeper is low on confidence? Maybe it was your defenders fault? It could be bad scripting, or it could be down to something else that is within your control.

 

[Red Owl]

Just had another keeper fuck up that cost me a goal (although I was being destroyed anyway)

Adebayor took a shot, which was blocked by Tomkins, and was heading out of play, so I held triangle to make Ivarov stop the corner, however, he barely moved, so I managed to get Stremer to hook it away in time - towards the touchline, where Adebayor picked it up - but Ivarov continued to follow the ball, leaving Adebayor with a simple pass to Bendtner who had an easy goal

 

[hazey5786]

But its like I said, maybe the condition of players make allot more difference in this PES? Maybe it goes deeper than we think? Confidence seems to play a big factor in the PES series.

If you went to bed a 5am, stayed up for the whole night and had a football match at 9am, but you felt like shit, no confidence whatsoever, would you dive at the strikers feet? I know I wouldn't... But what I'm trying to say is maybe the keeper is low on confidence? Maybe it was your defenders fault? It could be bad scripting, or it could be down to something else that is within your control.

lol your going a bit too deep, its just easier to admit the keepers are poor, its not that hard to do cos they are, like the other footy games before pes and fifa 09 now, the keepers have never been very good and in no way are they now

 

[Red Owl]

But its like I said, maybe the condition of players make allot more difference in this PES? Maybe it goes deeper than we think? Confidence seems to play a big factor in the PES series.

If you went to bed a 5am, stayed up for the whole night and had a football match at 9am, but you felt like shit, no confidence whatsoever, would you dive at the strikers feet? I know I wouldn't... But what I'm trying to say is maybe the keeper is low on confidence? Maybe it was your defenders fault? It could be bad scripting, or it could be down to something else that is within your control.

I doubt it - just looks like a massive error in gameplay, he didn't even try and make a save.

 

[hazey5786]

I doubt it - just looks like a massive error in gameplay, he didn't even try and make a save.

lol i agree with your view

like i've been saying, you could go through a lot of past footy games, actua, real football, virtua striker, addidas pro, lol even ronaldos footy game, the player has always found himself staring at the screen wondering what the fuck the keeper was doing

yes i know these games are not next gen, or in the same league as pes or fifa 09
but the problems always been ther

 

[Alij777]

lol i agree with your view

like i've been saying, you could go through a lot of past footy games, actua, real football, virtua striker, addidas pro, lol even ronaldos footy game, the player has always found himself staring at the screen wondering what the fuck the keeper was doing

yes i know these games are not next gen, or in the same league as pes or fifa 09
but the problems always been ther

I agree here. It has to be near impossible to make a good keeper, hence a perfect game. There are so many variables in play that create holes in the AI keeper code.

I've done my share of coding (electrical and computer engineering degree) and have a few friends in the gaming business. One works for EA . He's told me that AI is about the hardest thing to implement in a game, especially a free flowing one like soccer. There will be a day where it will be near perfect but for now the keepers are either GODS or RETARDS .

 

[Red Owl]

lol i agree with your view

like i've been saying, you could go through a lot of past footy games, actua, real football, virtua striker, addidas pro, lol even ronaldos footy game, the player has always found himself staring at the screen wondering what the fuck the keeper was doing

yes i know these games are not next gen, or in the same league as pes or fifa 09
but the problems always been ther

Oh God I used to love Ronaldo V Football. Although I thought it meant "Ronaldo vs. Football" and I wondered why he was playing against the game he was good at...

 

[Gaffa08]

lol your going a bit too deep, its just easier to admit the keepers are poor, its not that hard to do cos they are, like the other footy games before pes and fifa 09 now, the keepers have never been very good and in no way are they now

You'd be surprised, the condition plays a big part in PES... Remember, I've never said the keepers are the greatest, I've said they are an improvement from the past PES titles

I doubt it - just looks like a massive error in gameplay, he didn't even try and make a save.

Fair enough, but some keepers just get left standing

 

[hazey5786]

Oh God I used to love Ronaldo V Football. Although I thought it meant "Ronaldo vs. Football" and I wondered why he was playing against the game he was good at...

haha same here!
is he taking on the world of football i used to think, the bloke probably could at the time

speaking of that game tho, it did have some really good moments, probs didnt get the praise it deserved

 

[Red Owl]

haha same here!
is he taking on the world of football i used to think, the bloke probably could at the time

speaking of that game tho, it did have some really good moments, probs didnt get the praise it deserved

It was one of three PS1 games I got addicted to - the others being "International Super Star Soccer Pro" (I always remember the commentator saying it on the opening menu), and FIFA2000 (in hindsight, I loved it because it was easy... I remember my strikers scoring 100 in a season...)

 

[hazey5786]

lol boruc
hes just made a classic pes keeper save
soooooooooo it does happen in real life

 

[hazey5786]

It was one of three PS1 games I got addicted to - the others being "International Super Star Soccer Pro" (I always remember the commentator saying it on the opening menu), and FIFA2000 (in hindsight, I loved it because it was easy... I remember my strikers scoring 100 in a season...)

lol same again, miss that guy announcing that at the start of the game :crymore:

as for fifa, pass it sraight to sol campbell and 360 twirl to the other end of the pitch, why big sol? he was on the box art, so he was ace lol
plus ace at the time the game was released

 

[Wowi]

As for what you say about the regular setting, its not just keepers, every AI player is shit, they seem slow, they can't pass even if their life depended on it. So again, try top player because the AI improve drastically!

You can't play at a low difficulty setting and expect wonders from the AI.

I never said I expected wonders - in fact, I only really complained about the goalie. I get the passes I should get when Im in space to get them - sure, my teammates are very selvish now and then but hey, thats how it works in real life aswell. The only thing Im complaining about is the goalies - and they ARE below 'regular' level for reasons stated a few times now.

That being said, Im going to try a higher setting later and see if I like it more - I heard some people managed to change it during a BAL game and I was wondering how? Can you change at end of the season?

 

[Gaffa08]

lol boruc
hes just made a classic pes keeper save
soooooooooo it does happen in real life

He is good! Ask any Celtic fan and they will tell you.

Just had another keeper fuck up that cost me a goal (although I was being destroyed anyway)

Adebayor took a shot, which was blocked by Tomkins, and was heading out of play, so I held triangle to make Ivarov stop the corner, however, he barely moved, so I managed to get Stremer to hook it away in time - towards the touchline, where Adebayor picked it up - but Ivarov continued to follow the ball, leaving Adebayor with a simple pass to Bendtner who had an easy goal

Man, I didn't realise you was playing with the ML team.................... Do you expect wonders with a keeper like Ivarov???? He's stats are awful, no wonder your conceding all these strange goals...