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The great side of PES 09!

sandaweches

Registered User
okey what i mean is that also his fre kick movment and it's fresh movment also celebrateing movement. do you just playing to win or score thats not foball lol fotball is when masherano tackles 100% on the ball and its no free kick. fotball is when you down by 3-0 and trun it on 3-3 thats foball amigo. if thire short or shirts got dirty would be even more real.
remember when international super star evolution was thire first game i cant believe that i was satisfied with it. so be happay so far stop complaine!

that's true. I also enjoy the moments in the game besides always winning.
 

ehsancgfx

Registered User
the 3d grass is absolutely accurate , not like fifa where u get 2d grass overlayed with a separate pass and thats why sometimes the players boot goes benaeth the grass
 

ehsancgfx

Registered User
Lighting is unparrallaed and u will get a feeling of state of art "Ambient occlusion" feel watching the lights. along with HRD lighting and sahdow gives u he perfect realistic feeling
 

ehsancgfx

Registered User
Players ingame facial expression is awesome.I mean before a cross the player looks at the target and then give a cross.the players animation is really lifelike.Ball reaction is now much more realistic.
 

martyl2

Registered User
Oh, I still win most matches though, and I can honestly say that for me PES09 is very easy and straightforward.

Did I ever said that I "lost the game due to lucky goals" ?? Yes I do restart some games out of curiosity and annoyance, just to see if its something random, or if some games are scripted to go 100% against you.





PS - "lol" has most definitely lost whatever meaning it had.

Scripted 100%?! To be fair i think most people will agree that your view is ridiculous, u see in football Amateur there are times when u win and times when u lose and also times when u draw, its called football, understand?, not "some games are scripted to go 100% against you". Ludricous in my view.

P.S in finding your opinion humourous because it is so stupid and has no evidence or proof i felt i had using the term "lol" was quite appropriate. Apologies if you are offended by it.
 

Titcha

Registered User
p.s In Finding Your Opinion Humourous Because It Is So Stupid And Has No Evidence Or Proof I Felt I Had Using The Term "lol" Was Quite Appropriate. Apologies If You Are Offended By It.

Lol
 

Amateur

Registered User
Scripted 100%?! To be fair i think most people will agree that your view is ridiculous, u see in football Amateur there are times when u win and times when u lose and also times when u draw, its called football, understand?, not "some games are scripted to go 100% against you". Ludricous in my view.

P.S in finding your opinion humourous because it is so stupid and has no evidence or proof i felt i had using the term "lol" was quite appropriate. Apologies if you are offended by it.

Whatever dude, you really are pathetic.

I mean, WHY do you keep arguing against the obvious??

* martyl2; "u see in football Amateur there are times when u win and times when u lose and also times when u draw, its called football, understand?"

Is that the best you could come up with?? Pathetic, weak, a waste of my time.

And then you dare to mention Evidence?? My evidence is PES 2009 the arcade game.

But whatever, I really couldn't care less about your opinion, you lack respect as well as brains. I don't argue with little cunts like you.
 

martyl2

Registered User
Whatever dude, you really are pathetic.

I mean, WHY do you keep arguing against the obvious??

* martyl2; "u see in football Amateur there are times when u win and times when u lose and also times when u draw, its called football, understand?"

Is that the best you could come up with?? Pathetic, weak, a waste of my time.

And then you dare to mention Evidence?? My evidence is PES 2009 the arcade game.

But whatever, I really couldn't care less about your opinion, you lack respect as well as brains. I don't argue with little cunts like you.

In terms of respect i am not the person using derogatory and insulting terms in your last sentence. Just because we have a conflict of opinion there is no need to draw lowly insults. Also a person of your intelligence obviously does not recognise sarcasm, but the logic of my sarcasm is true. u win u lose some u dont have a scripted match.

there is no "obvious" arguments about it! Hopefully in time you will recognise that two people can have different opinions. I think you should respect other people opinions instead of calling them "cunts."
 

Amateur

Registered User
In terms of respect i am not the person using derogatory and insulting terms in your last sentence. Just because we have a conflict of opinion there is no need to draw lowly insults. Also a person of your intelligence obviously does not recognise sarcasm, but the logic of my sarcasm is true. u win u lose some u dont have a scripted match.

there is no "obvious" arguments about it! Hopefully in time you will recognise that two people can have different opinions. I think you should respect other people opinions instead of calling them "cunts."

You really have nothing better to do, do you??

You know very well who insulted who 1st, people do have different opinions, that's why people usually say "That's your opinion and I respect it".

But when someone says to You, that your View is ridiculous, that is an insult. Not sarcasm, Insult. But maybe you don't really know How to use sarcasm.
 

martyl2

Registered User
You really have nothing better to do, do you??

You know very well who insulted who 1st, people do have different opinions, that's why people usually say "That's your opinion and I respect it".

But when someone says to You, that your View is ridiculous, that is an insult. Not sarcasm, Insult. But maybe you don't really know How to use sarcasm.

I apologise if my views got you so upset. I respect your opinion. Unlucky with that yellow card there..lol

P.S Using sarcasm in text and not when speaking is pretty difficult in my view but obviously you with your intelligence can do anything
 

Baddar

Registered User
Could the both of you please drop it now?

marty, you reported Amateur's post in the first place so by saying "unlucky with that yellow card there..lol" seems to me like you're trying to get a reaction from him.

I could, if you want, book you too?
 

martyl2

Registered User
Could the both of you please drop it now?

marty, you reported Amateur's post in the first place so by saying "unlucky with that yellow card there..lol" seems to me like you're trying to get a reaction from him.

I could, if you want, book you too?

Apologies moderator, it seems what initially was an innocent debate about PES has become out of hand and completely off topic.
 

THRILLA_CFC

Registered User
I don't care what anybody says, i love pes and i think what they have put into 2009 is good, for example the editing is mind blowing. the graphics are best in terms of a football game no competition there, i have been having great fun with Bal that i've got 3 profiles, 1 each of a diferrent nationality. I'm a Jamaican livin in London so i went for Jamaica unfortunately i haven't been called up for national duty but i'm in the Chelsea team with the likes of C.Ronaldo. The other i went for England and have been getting call ups. The other team i went for was Brazil and i have been called up as well. I could go on and on but this is taking me away from playing some pes right now so my final verdict is i cant wait for pes2010.
 

Amateur

Registered User
I apologise if my views got you so upset. I respect your opinion. Unlucky with that yellow card there..lol

P.S Using sarcasm in text and not when speaking is pretty difficult in my view but obviously you with your intelligence can do anything

This coming from the guy who, for some reason, cannot see how scripted and predictable PES 2009 is.

PS - My apologies for stating the Obvious.
 

martyl2

Registered User
This coming from the guy who, for some reason, cannot see how scripted and predictable PES 2009 is.

PS - My apologies for stating the Obvious.

i would be very interested to hear your definition of "scripted" in terms of pro evo...in terms of predictablitiy pes is renound for its limitless options in terms of scoring, creating chances, situations etc. I personally do not see your logic. I think you are the only person i have come across who has repeatedly called pes "scripted". Just seems like a shallow argument if there are no other users referring to it as "scripted." In your view was every other pes "scripted" also? just curious to hear your thoughts. Regards,
 

Amateur

Registered User
i would be very interested to hear your definition of "scripted" in terms of pro evo...in terms of predictablitiy pes is renound for its limitless options in terms of scoring, creating chances, situations etc. I personally do not see your logic. I think you are the only person i have come across who has repeatedly called pes "scripted". Just seems like a shallow argument if there are no other users referring to it as "scripted." In your view was every other pes "scripted" also? just curious to hear your thoughts. Regards,

Scripted is when something is decided before hands, when someone consciously decides how things will play in a movie, or a book, or a video game.

And every PES game I've played is "scripted" to a certain extent. Most notably PES09.

The amount of "lucky" goals that I and the Com have scored is ridiculous. The amount of goals from free-kicks, corner kicks, penalties, and GK spills is unacceptable.

At times a perfectly timed and aimed shoot will not go in, because the Com randomly decided it shouldn't go in. In other occasions I just cannot do anything against my opponents, even when I know exactly what they'll do.

And then there's the usual huge gaps that the Center Backs leave behind for no apparent reason other than giving away an easy goal. Plus the fail-safe passes that always leave me one-on-one against the GK, for the easy tap-in.

PES09 for me feels like the Com is taking you for a ride, even when you know how to play against it and win every time, it's just average, at best. Which is the main issue I have with PES09.

Because even though PES6 (PS2 version) was scripted to a certain extent, it was still addictive and fun. Even when I won three consecutive games by large margins, I still wanted to play one more game.

PES09 isn't harder than PES6, we just have less control over significant things, we are somehow restrained by the Com.. this makes PES09 an easier and more straightforward game than versions like PES6 or PES5.

I think PES09 is poorly scripted.. in my opinion PES6 (PS2 version) was scripted with much more caution and detail. Because it wasn't as obvious and consistent, because you really felt a greater sense of "anything can happen" -as- opposed to the FIFA-Like feeling I get whenever I score a goal in PES09.

It feels as though in PES09 the actual skill of a player isn't as important as before. Every PES version I've played is scripted to some extent, but the execution has changed for the worst.
 
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shaun7

Registered User
^Lucky golas in pes happens on all of them not only pes 09.
I played pes 5 and the GK spill shots too (maybe not as much as pes 09, but pes 09 has better shooting than 5), then 6 where there was superhuman Van der sar. That was truly unacceptable. In pes 6 they spilled shots too, but again not as much as pes 09.
The GK spills area bit of an issue in pes 09, but in reality the GK spill many saves before they catch the ball.
 
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