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I can't stress this fact enough..INJURY TIME

OptimusPrime

Registered User
We need a clock counting down for this.

Injury time 1 minute meaning it's 1 minute unless the AI gets a shot off on goal.

How can it be on minute when the AI's knocks the ball around get's a throw and two corners after the commentator says "1 minute". Notice the commentator is always late when they mention that so that means the time has already gone in, yet the AI get the time to do all these kinds of things BUT..the moment your are in possesion of the ball the match is over...
 

S-D-P

Registered User
this happens all the time on fifa and pro and is infuriating. If the computer needs a goals more injury time is added. The ref also lets them have attack after attack and barrage your goal
 

CapnKill

Registered User
We need a clock counting down for this.

Injury time 1 minute meaning it's 1 minute unless the AI gets a shot off on goal.

How can it be on minute when the AI's knocks the ball around get's a throw and two corners after the commentator says "1 minute". Notice the commentator is always late when they mention that so that means the time has already gone in, yet the AI get the time to do all these kinds of things BUT..the moment your are in possesion of the ball the match is over...

Eh.. it basically means that you get 1 attack.

So if it flashes one minute and you are attacking you will get all the time you need to finish out your attack... If its a corner you'll get a shot at it as well.. but the second it is intercepted the whistle is blown... and vice versa.
 

dan80

Registered User
its really annoying cause the board comes up and then like a min later the commentator say he added on one min and yeh they can be in possesion for ages and even score when there isnt any time added on i have said before that there should be a clock that runs and not just say stoppage time cause ive never seen it in real football
 

OptimusPrime

Registered User
Eh.. it basically means that you get 1 attack.

So if it flashes one minute and you are attacking you will get all the time you need to finish out your attack... If its a corner you'll get a shot at it as well.. but the second it is intercepted the whistle is blown... and vice versa.

Not always I got in situations where I got the ball at the end of the 16 and the ref blew for time.....
 

HH

Registered User
If there is one thing that has pissed me off with the PES series is injury time, they cant get it right. During cup finals, you'd think that they would allow at least 3 minutes, but then theres a big fat zero.
 

The Eristic

Registered User
Yeah, so frustrating. I just played two matches, and had, between the two:

A: 1 minute shown, but ~5 minutes of stoppage given to the AI playing possession primarily in their own half and central third of the pitch, trying to break me down at the end of the 1st.

B: Full time blown after the 1 minute shown when my player was fouled with the ball at feet on the right edge of the opponent's box. The foul whistle started to blow, then was interrupted and overridden by the FT whistle.

Jebus.
 

Dale C.

Registered User
Meh, theres no point moaning, Just get the ball and keep it yourself.

Thats problem solved in my eyes.
 

gooderz

Registered User
pinch of salt territory i think...

i'm sure there's been many a stoppage time winner scored by all of us :)
 

TenTen

Registered User
I also do not see the point in moaning about it, since it works both ways

There has been plenty of times when I have a strong attack on and the ref seems reluctant to blow the whistle. It just adds to the intensity of those tight mathces
 

mr.vagtastic

Registered User
Totally agree with this post.. I've been stopped so many times when about to be 1 on 1 with the keeper yet the computer can take all the time they like!

I think the effect of this increases when you put the difficulty level up.. its another dodgey method of making this game harder to win on a harder difficulty (along with poor own team AI, awful human controller keepers compare to superhuman cpu keepers, bias referees)
 

Suv

Registered User
Its a fair point tbh. I have definitely noticed that in quite a few cases playing against the computer stoppage time can last for ages when they have the ball and as soon as you nab it the whistle blows. Where as if its the other way round and i have the ball in stoppage time ive found the AI cant wait to blow that whistle. In some cases during a through ball that looks sure to lead to a chance on goal or after ive already made it down the wing and am about to cross it in. It definitely get annoying sometimes.
 

OptimusPrime

Registered User
"The referee has indicated there will be a MINIMUM of 1 minute extra time"

Because it's a "MINIMUM" of 1 minutes as you put it, it indicates that play will continue for at least a minute right..I believe that's what your trying to say..

But than that means it leaves the end time open...so why not go on for 5-10-100 minutes...or why continue going till the AI gets the last shot?

The indication alone is incorrect because injury time is shown before the end of a soccermatch...it's is NOT an indication but a fact...if i'm not mistaken that's why tey show it now to remove all doubts on how long the ref will let the match continue....
 

CaptainCabinet

Trapped In Cabinets
Because it's a "MINIMUM" of 1 minutes as you put it, it indicates that play will continue for at least a minute right..I believe that's what your trying to say..

But than that means it leaves the end time open...so why not go on for 5-10-100 minutes...or why continue going till the AI gets the last shot?

The indication alone is incorrect because injury time is shown before the end of a soccermatch...it's is NOT an indication but a fact...if i'm not mistaken that's why tey show it now to remove all doubts on how long the ref will let the match continue....

Actually, although my statement only relieves doubt on one side of the argument, checking your handy FA Law book (I'm sure you have one to hand you seem to know everything about every law) states that any time added on is in fact at the discretion of the man in charge, whether it be more or less what he first indicated. It most certainly isn't a fact, and you are most certainly mistaken. Take this for example: In the first minute of an injury time period touted as 3 minutes a player goes down and gets injured, time ticks away slowly while he is removed by stretcher. Oh wait a minute, we've passed the 3 minute period. At this point does everyone just pack up and go home? No, of course they don't.

I suggest in future you try and at least learn a small segment on these "AI Cheats" you post so heavily about. Take a good think about whether you are right or wrong, and maybe even if you still do think you are right, go and harp on about how Liverpool are the best team in the world, rather than posting.
 

OptimusPrime

Registered User
Actually, although my statement only relieves doubt on one side of the argument, checking your handy FA Law book (I'm sure you have one to hand you seem to know everything about every law) states that any time added on is in fact at the discretion of the man in charge, whether it be more or less what he first indicated. It most certainly isn't a fact, and you are most certainly mistaken. Take this for example: In the first minute of an injury time period touted as 3 minutes a player goes down and gets injured, time ticks away slowly while he is removed by stretcher. Oh wait a minute, we've passed the 3 minute period. At this point does everyone just pack up and go home? No, of course they don't.

Since you paid a visit to Wikipedia and put in "the discretion of the man in charge" that means that the man in charge is favouring the AI 99,99% of the time ...which IMO takes the fairness out of the game and i believe to be considered a cheat.
Also you forgot to add these lines from your wikipedia search:

In matches where a fourth official is appointed, toward the end of the half the referee signals how many minutes of stoppage time he intends to add. The fourth official then informs the players and spectators by holding up a board showing this number."

Which in the case of pes is what we deal with. The referee signal is what the commentator is announcing. And that far proceeds that period nearly 99.99% of the team when the AI IS IN POSESSION.

The end result always lies with the referee but that happens when there's an freekick or injury and in most cases that isn't the issue, A CORNERKICK IS NOT AN OPTION FOR EXTRA TIME.The play continues till the AI gets a shot or you get a hold of the ball in which the AI ENDS THE GAME INSTANTLY.

That's why a clock counter needs to be implemented.

ps : explain 0 overtime ..that's in the FA LAW book as well..GTFOH:w00t

I suggest in future you try and at least learn a small segment on these "AI Cheats" you post so heavily about. Take a good think about whether you are right or wrong, and maybe even if you still do think you are right, go and harp on about how Liverpool are the best team in the world, rather than posting.


See that's why I can't even pay your replies no attention and I tend to ignore them from now on as you seem to still hold grudges from previous threads when most people coincided with me instead of the "I take it personal when somebody criticizes PES attitude of yours" and that's soooooooo laaaaaaame...I tried to nip it in the butt in my last thread in which I indicated to you that I don't have anything against your PESONALLY and I thought you'd be more mature about it now......but damn your grudge is stronger than I thought..I don't want to turn this into another me vs you and ether you..again...but check the replies I think everybody here agrees with this thread so......your should drawyour own conclusion..;)
 

Dale C.

Registered User
Thats a bit silly. Its kinda like saying: "There's no point in moaning about referees giving cards for fair tackles, just dont tackle."

How is that anything like what I said?

The commentator says there will be a minimum of whatever time anyway
 

Can-o-Mark

Registered User
How is that anything like what I said?

The commentator says there will be a minimum of whatever time anyway

Correct me if I'm wrong, but basically you said: "If you think its a problem, change the way you play, so the problem wont occur.".

Also, I dont think that the problem people have with the injury time is that it goes on too long. The problem is, is that injury time goes on too long when the AI has possession.
 
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