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Accumulated Fatigue!

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wilsybill

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I have to say that I think that this feature is spoiling Master League for me. Your starting 11 are only fit enough to play a maximum of 2 games together and then they're all knackered (even the goalie?!). It is so frustrating and I think there should be an option, like with the league, to switch it off. After all, players can play a hell of a lot more than 2 games without exhaustion setting in.

Better still, instead of fatigue, have increased injuries. I think it was PES 4 that had more injuries than any other PES and the fatigue thing wasn't as much of an issue. Perhaps the more a player plays games in a row the more injury prone he could become? So if you've played your star strioker for 10 games in a row, he may get a knock in training, or during a match. In PES 4 the injury occurred and you were told what it was (broken leg, strained muscle etc). This was a great feature.

I remember I bought Jorgemsen of Danemark in closed season and he was fab in the pre season friendlies. I played the first game of the season and he got injured. After the match it said he had broken his leg! I was gutted he missed most of the season, but this is realistic.

For 2010 I'd like to see more injuries/slight knocks and a revamped fatigue system. The one we have now is just unrealistic. I have taken to playing a league instead with fatigue switched off. However it is nowhere near as exciting without transfers etc.

Does anyone know anyway to get more matches out of your players? Perhaps changing the Master League to very easy before the start?

Cheers for any help and/or comments.....
 
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wanna_be_dj

Registered User
As I have a big squad in ML I'm able to choose 2 teams. My main team plays the league matches and my younger/2nd team play the cup games. Then if a certain player stands out in the cup games, I swap them with a player who played poor in the 1st team!

In league/cup mode its a lot harder as you don't have the option of rejuvenating them!!
 
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martyl2

Registered User
wilsybill said:
I have to say that I think that this feature is spoiling Master League for me. Your starting 11 are only fit enough to play a maximum of 2 games together and then they're all knackered (even the goalie?!). It is so frustrating and I think there should be an option, like with the league, to switch it off. After all, players can play a hell of a lot more than 2 games without exhaustion setting in.

Better still, instead of fatigue, have increased injuries. I think it was PES 4 that had more injuries than any other PES and the fatigue thing wasn't as much of an issue. Perhaps the more a player plays games in a row the more injury prone he could become? So if you've played your star strioker for 10 games in a row, he may get a knock in training, or during a match. In PES 4 the injury occurred and you were told what it was (broken leg, strained muscle etc). This was a great feature.

I remember I bought Jorgemsen of Danemark in closed season and he was fab in the pre season friendlies. I played the first game of the season and he got injured. After the match it said he had broken his leg! I was gutted he missed most of the season, but this is realistic.

For 2010 I'd like to see more injuries/slight knocks and a revamped fatigue system. The one we have now is just unrealistic. I have taken to playing a league instead with fatigue switched off. However it is nowhere near as exciting without transfers etc.

Does anyone know anyway to get more matches out of your players? Perhaps changing the Master League to very easy before the start?

Cheers for any help and/or comments.....
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I agree totally. I would understand that the default players have poor fatigue in order to add to the challenge when you 1st start a masterleague. But when you buy players like Vidic who play nearly every game for United in real life, it becomes a disgrace that he gets tired after 2/3 games.

It has to be sorted in the next PES as it becomes a joke as you can never start the same team in any two games! It completely defeats the purpose of having a "winning 11" which you start the most and you can't even play the same team on two consecutive occasions.
 
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Iheartpes

Registered User
I'd agree to a certain extent, it works in theory but not in practice. Like martyl2 said, someone like Vidic who plays CB doesnt do alot of running/sprinting (compared to a winger/SB) yet will pick up the same fatigue as such a player.

I like the system, though is does need tweaking. Theres nothing more satisfying than resting key players before a title deciding match and bringing on a first choice 11 and winning.

PES 4 didnt (to my memory) have a injury rating system where it told you what was wrong with the player, only how long they would be out. (i remember as ive gone straight from pes4 to pes2009 :))
 
shaun7

shaun7

Registered User
^But for example C.ronaldo and messi don't tire after 4 matches. They can play all the season. They do get mentally tired, but not physically tired. Or at least not as much as in pes for sure ;)
 
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alonCFC

Registered User
shaun7 said:
^But for example C.ronaldo and messi don't tire after 4 matches. They can play all the season. They do get mentally tired, but not physically tired. Or at least not as much as in pes for sure ;)
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With Messi I'm not sure. Every 3 games he playes it's like he doesn't show up. It's like he playes amazing for two games, and at the third game you barley see him making good moves.
 
chelsea11

chelsea11

Registered User
The likes of Gerrard or Lampard should not get tired after a couple of games. And that's only two players, there are a lot of really fit players who play week in week out and do not get that tired. Surely a week off between matches should be enough to rejuvenate the players.
 
shaun7

shaun7

Registered User
alonCFC said:
With Messi I'm not sure. Every 3 games he playes it's like he doesn't show up. It's like he playes amazing for two games, and at the third game you barley see him making good moves.
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Maybe because Barca had too many points:D
 
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L3g0la5

Registered User
shaun7 said:
^But for example C.ronaldo and messi don't tire after 4 matches. They can play all the season. They do get mentally tired, but not physically tired. Or at least not as much as in pes for sure ;)
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agree with that. Its kinda weird then the defenders are usually the ones who need to be rested first ahead of the attackers who are running all over the place. I could play Rooney and Ronaldo for 5 games straight but Vidic and Ferdinand play 2 games and I'm forced to bench them already. It would be better if they could make it such that their physical condition matches real life. Like defenders can afford to play more consecutive games cause they don't exactly have to run that much, the younger players have more stamina and thus can afford to play more (though Rooney and Ronaldo are already doing that) while the older players like maybe Giggs and Scholes can't really play consecutive games and such.
 
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