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retrofooze

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I doubt anyone can explain, it's more a moan than anything else. Feel free to add your own as the list is too long for me to remember everything

- Close control
- Passing that isnt fully automated
- Penalty decisions
- Ability to take penalties in a decent way
- First touch
- Responsive players
- Varying speed depedent on player (anyone can catch anyone)
- Direction arrows on tactics
- Sending midfielders up for set pieces
- Remove players from wall
- Remebering tactics from previous match
 

shaun7

Registered User
Passing that isnt fully automated
- Penalty decisions
- Ability to take penalties in a decent way
What's with these? They're better the way they are in pes 10.
In pes 09 we had auto tackling that results in a penalty. While in pes 10 we rarley get a pen which is also bad.

But I agree about responsivness and first touch. The response is better than in both demos, but I still want it better.
 

Stormrider

Registered User
Disagree with most of your points. New penalty system is great but the view is shit and yea there's a real lack of penalties atm. You can instantly send midfielders up for set pieces by raising your attack level. I'd rather have the sliders than arrows. Can't have both they cuz contradict each other. Player speed seems fine. Almost no one can catch C Ronaldo and Kaka and top player. Response also seems fine to me. As long as you're not running at high speed and especially when at a stand still, they pretty much do anything you want instantly. It really is just a high speed dribbling issue which makes sense. If they made dribbling any more responsive the game will be too easy for me cuz it'l be Pes 2009 all over again.
 

dan80

Registered User
Like most people say nothing wrong with penaltys as in every other pes you have never had an option only the direction.
 

CryingGallas

Registered User
Tackling, I swear I can't tackle in the game!! Pressing X just makes the player do nothing and run with the opposing player, it's rubbish! There is no tussling either, hugely poor!
 

Rasmus

Registered User
^ What annoys me the most in pes 2010 is the assisted tackles. SO unnescessary.
And you can always see when they're performed due to the leg lifted towards the opposing players knee.
And i agree that the penalty mode is great - however it's a little strange to remake it, when we doesnt get the chance to use it..
 

profit89

Registered User
I doubt anyone can explain, it's more a moan than anything else. Feel free to add your own as the list is too long for me to remember everything

- Close control
- Passing that isnt fully automated
- Penalty decisions
- Ability to take penalties in a decent way
- First touch
- Responsive players
- Varying speed depedent on player (anyone can catch anyone)
- Direction arrows on tactics
- Sending midfielders up for set pieces
- Remove players from wall
- Remebering tactics from previous match

Are you sure you're playing Pes 2010 ?
 

Stormrider

Registered User
Tackling, I swear I can't tackle in the game!! Pressing X just makes the player do nothing and run with the opposing player, it's rubbish! There is no tussling either, hugely poor!

I actually steal the ball almost every time just by holding X if the player has decent enough defense and speed but you're right the system is still rubbish. For me the best standing tackle system ever was in Fifa 98 RTWC. You press X, he immediately sticks his leg out simple as that. Sometimes you win the ball, sometimes you just trip the guy. Over 10 years later and both companies adopted an inferior, school girl tackling system.
 

shaun7

Registered User
^ What annoys me the most in pes 2010 is the assisted tackles. SO unnescessary.
And you can always see when they're performed due to the leg lifted towards the opposing players knee.
And i agree that the penalty mode is great - however it's a little strange to remake it, when we doesnt get the chance to use it..

What do you mean by assisted tackles? I swear that I never experienced an auto tackle like in pes 09. I play on semi assisted BTW.:)
 

Rasmus

Registered User
^ I mean tackles performed by your players but when you don't press the circle button. Happens like 5-6 times each match for me. Both playing against com and my mates (use semi assisted as well)
 

El_Pupi

Registered User
^^yeah this happenns ocassionally but it doesnt bother me, if the players didnt slide tackle what would the do to defend? absolutely nothing, thats like asking why do my allies in COD shoot if im not controlling them, its the AI of each game, it would be unrealistic if your teammates and never slide tackle or slide tackle and got the ball everytime.
 

shaun7

Registered User
It never happend to me. Anyway, I do agree that the ref doesn't give you enough penalties though.
 

Rasmus

Registered User
^^yeah this happenns ocassionally but it doesnt bother me, if the players didnt slide tackle what would the do to defend? absolutely nothing, thats like asking why do my allies in COD shoot if im not controlling them, its the AI of each game, it would be unrealistic if your teammates and never slide tackle or slide tackle and got the ball everytime.

Well we all have different opinions. I respect it doesn't bother you, just saying that i still disslike it because mostly it results in a free kick to the opposition, that could have easily been avoided.
 
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