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Engineered For Freedom? Not A Chance

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alexholmes

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Well, considering this is the PES 2011 tagline I think it's a massive joke. "Engineered For Freedom" or "Engineered To Piss You Off"? I go with the latter.

Everything about the game sucks. No such thing as "manual" controls. Everything is already determined. I feel like i'm an actor churning my one-dimensional lines.

Do you think they'd get our message if we all refused to buy PES 2012!?
 
Amateur

Amateur

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alexholmes said:
Well, considering this is the PES 2011 tagline I think it's a massive joke. "Engineered For Freedom" or "Engineered To Piss You Off"? I go with the latter.

Everything about the game sucks. No such thing as "manual" controls. Everything is already determined. I feel like i'm an actor churning my one-dimensional lines.

Do you think they'd get our message if we all refused to buy PES 2012!?
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Yeah I have already decided not to buy PES12, actually, I have already decided not to buy any more Football Sims until they fix what needs to be fixed.

Though sadly, I am just a consumer and I will be easily replaced; I do not think the idea of "boycott" is possible in this day and age, people are too addicted to the machine.

Good points though.
 
Sabatasso

Sabatasso

Banned
Amateur said:
Yeah I have already decided not to buy PES12, actually, I have already decided not to buy any more Football Sims until they fix what needs to be fixed.
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Can you name at least one football sim that you actually own?

I remind you that FIFA and PES are not footy sims...
 
Amateur

Amateur

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Sabatasso said:
Can you name at least one football sim that you actually own?

I remind you that FIFA and PES are not footy sims...
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And I remind you that I describe these products with the same terms that the producers use in order to sell them; you wanna know what term is used for selling these products?

I remind you that FIFA and PES are sold as footy sims.... and therefore who actually gives a flying fuck about what you think these products actually are?
 
Sabatasso

Sabatasso

Banned
Amateur said:
And I remind you that I describe these products with the same terms that the producers use in order to sell them; you wanna know what term is used for selling these products?

I remind you that FIFA and PES are sold as footy sims.... and therefore who actually gives a flying fuck about what you think these products actually are?
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I have never seen PES or FIFA claim they are a football sim, or that they aim to be one.

Unless you can show me some proof that they actually claim that, you stand corrected.

The only reason this is important is quite simple, by claiming to be a simulator, you also claim that your product is as realistic as you are able to make it at the time of release. Neither FIFA or PES are especially realistic, and it does not even look like they have tried to make them realistic either.

They both claim to offer action filled football experience, and they both deliver. Of course if you get too hung up on realism, they both suck, hence why they don't claim to be simulators.

And if you judge these games with "simulator goggles" on, you are actually making a big fool out of yourself in the process. That would be like judging a porn movie by its poor special effects and acting, when it's the sucking and fucking that is important.
 
fick

fick

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Just watching a thread descend into anonymity, becoming just another thread based around bickering over nothing, with the intellect of the posters purely on "well, yo mamma..." levels of stupidity.

As for the result today, it has no bearing on my mood and certainly not on my moderation. Mention it again though & I'll ban your ass! :laugh:
 
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lionelhutz

Registered User
the more you play it the worse it gets.... it is true that a lot of the game play is determined. the amount of time added on doesn't correspond with the time shown on the screen. and playing top player level is a joke, all it does is make your players miss everything and the AI wins 80% of the tackles and the AI players become incredibly fast, 3rd rate defenders massively outrunning the likes of messi or ronaldo. complete tosh!!
 
Amateur

Amateur

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Honestly, I played the game last week, after about two months of not touching it, and to my surprise, PES11 is worst than I remembered....

The first thing that jumped out at me was the very pin-ball feel of passing.... Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with the passing?

I cannot bother myself with this game, it is a joke of a game as far as I'm concerned, a pretentious video game for people who find it entertaining; fortunately for me, I do not find it entertaining, it feels like an incomplete video game with ridiculous balancing acts, a dumb and simplistic video game in terms of substance and yet overly difficult and inconsistent in terms of execution.

PES11 gets a 5 out of 10 from my part, one of the worst video games I have ever played; the video game industry is a joke at this point, ridiculous prices for Current Gen Consoles, just so that you can end up playing a graphically pimped up PS2 game that somehow is not as entertaining as the original PS2 version of the game.

That's what happens when the video game industry goes crazy for Motion Capture Animations without actually changing how the core elements function, core elements such as the actual buttons of the controller; the left analog stick button works the same identical way with the past gen animations and with the current gen motion capture animations -- mistake -- if you're gonna change the animations, if you're gonna add more directions of movement, more directions of passing, you should perhaps think about changing how the damn button actually works.

Otherwise, you get video games like PES11, incredibly dumb in terms of substance and yet overly difficult in terms of execution; because regardless of the supposed massive difference between PES5 on the PS2 and PES11 on the PS3, the left analog stick functions today the same way it functioned ten years ago.

I'm hoping that a new contender/company comes up with a new Footy video game, I'm tired of Konami and EA Sports with their lazy yearly updates.

PS

I know I've said it all before, many times, but whatever, this is how I rant.
 
muscularmatt

muscularmatt

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Ali

Ali

It is happening again
Amateur - Do you play many games at all? Because, to call PES 2011 one of the worst games you have ever played is a bit extreme.
 
dan80

dan80

Registered User
Im annoyed with the cheating, players doing stupid things so it benifits the AI like walking stright past the ball or not going for it so the AI can score, im sure the other pes games on the ps2 had cheating but you couldnt see it clearly where this game its so obvious, you end up screaming at the TV.
 
S-D-P

S-D-P

Registered User
Amateur I agree about the balancing acts, especially with cursor change. I think cursor change is designed to sometimes limit what you can do in a very subtle way, some of the cursor issues may be programming faults but I doubt it. This is my most loved PES but it doesn't half drive me fucking insane, especially the balancing acts.
 
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