Do not buy pes 2012

[abu97]

look micho, not even this sounds promising:-
http://www.onlyproevolutions.com/2011/10/first-pes-2013-rumours-surface.html

 

[Micho]

Damn right........they may have taken 1 step back in terms of a couple of aspects, but they've taken 3 bloody leaps and bounds forward in terms of everything else

1- shooting = 1 leap backwards
2- defense = still same shit as before
3- passing = still same shit as before
4- referee = 10 leaps backwards
5- goal keeper = still same shit as before
6-free flowing football = aka engineered for freedom = still same shit as before

7- team mate control? = fifa had this about 5 years ago = 5 leaps forward backwards to 2005

8- penalty fixed = we had a normal penalty system 2 years ago = 2 leaps forward backwards to 2010

9- tactics/formations/strategies = same shit as before = no improvement no effectiveness no realism no change in coaching tactics whatever

10- through passes fixed = we had it before in 2010 = 2 leaps forward backwards to 2010

they fix something what they have broken before and they break what was fixed ... it is vicious circle, the only thing that is not a circle is their profit which is rather a straight bullish trend line

please wake up
:doh::doh::doh::devil:

 

[abu97]

ok micho, after reading your last post i have to admit you are pretty biased

 

[Micho]

I beat barca 2-0 online last night...though i was using utd. He kept running at me with messi but i just kept taking the ball from him using 2 defenders

what a great achievement... shall we call you football master?:doh:

 

[Micho]

and you ran down the wings with Young and Nani all match?

loool

 

[Micho]

HERE FUKING HERE!!!! well said, i agree totally with most of your comments, if not all.... i am finding myself doing it the easy way by dribbleing round in circles till theres a gap in defence then dribbling round the keeper, gettin really bored of this now but its the only way to compete, the skill factor is gone in this years game!!!! just a shame cos pes 2011 only needed a few tweaks.

a few tweaks? the game needs coding from scratach, its so fucked up that you cannot tweak it... NEW CODE PLEASE.... THIS IS NOT FOOTBALL

 

[Micho]

It's in the personal data section you can chose if the ai shoots, pass, clear and tackle

you can even have a nap and have the ai win the game for you hahahaha

 

[Micho]

I think the through balls have been freed up so to speak, in other words last year they had a homing missile effect and the power bar flattered to deceive as they were still on the rails somewhat. This year they feel more organic.

This game really needs manual crossing back, despite my addiction to the pes series konami's habit of improving one thing and degrading another is getting tedious to say the least. Maybe the manual crossing system of last year wouldn't sit well with the mechanics of pes 2012 but surely konami could find some balance with the crossing system. I score very few headers but the crossing is very dumbed down.

still is wrong... nothing is fixed, still bugged and hacked like hell

 

[Micho]

ok micho, after reading your last post i have to admit you are pretty biased

please explain more what do you mean... im just being honest

 

[fick]

Micho -Constant multi/double is frowned upon in these here forums, use the multi quote button when wanting to reply to several posts, edit a single post if you wish to add something, or alternatively wait until someone else has posted before posting again.

Thanks.

 

[Micho]

Micho -Constant multi/double is frowned upon in these here forums, use the multi quote button when wanting to reply to several posts, edit a single post if you with to add something, or alternatively wait until someone else has posted before posting again.

Thanks.

ok i will do that from now on... :roses:

 

[abu97]

i mean micho that shooting has improved because even you have to admit that someone like shimizu with 66 power can belt the ball into the top corner like Cristiano Ronaldo so it was overdone there but in 2012 the power is more realistic but the accuracy is crazy. passing was arguably better in 2012 apart from the stupid power bar. ball physics are definitey better than 2011 however still not near perfect.

when you say defending is better in pes 2011, it is too big a topic to say. one on one defending was better and simplified in 2011 but in 2012 the crappest of dribblers can get past ya whilst in 2011 it was realistic. pes 2011 had worse manmarking(eventhough pes 2012 still has crap man marking), slide tackling and intercepting which is why most of pes 2011 players let in goals from crosses and un-intercepted through balls so defending as a whole in gemeral is better this year despite it's annoying bugs with the new tactical defending

 

[Micho]

i mean micho that shooting has improved because even you have to admit that someone like shimizu with 66 power can belt the ball into the top corner like Cristiano Ronaldo so it was overdone there but in 2012 the power is more realistic bbut the accuracy is crazy. passing was arguably better in 2012 apart from the stupid power bar. ball physics are definitey better than 2011 however still not near perfect.

when you say defending is better in pes 2011, it is too big a topic to say. one on one defending was better and simplified in 2011 but in 2012 the crappest of dribblers can get past ya whilst in 2011 it was realistic. pes 2011 had worse manmarking(eventhough pes 2012 still has crap man marking), slide tackling and intercepting which is why most of pes 2011 players let in goals from crosses and un-intercepted through balls so defending as a whole in gemeral is better this year despite it's annoying bugs with the new tactical defending

i agree about what you say regarding many things, but that said do you feel that PES 2012 is a game of football? defense is better? i think it is "different shit different release" but it is still a shit

 

[christoph2011]

i agree about what you say regarding many things, but that said do you feel that PES 2012 is a game of football? defense is better? i think it is "different shit different release" but it is still a shit

do you even play the game atall? because you always seem to be on here complaining?

 

[abu97]

yeah micho, i agree pes 2012 is far from being a realisic football game because of those annoying bugs and COM stupidness. Here for example, we all make mistakes in pes and whenever we go out to play in real life. But the cpu is so accurate and never make mistakes - every game i do a lot of misplaced passes, leaving the ball behind, shot deflecting off my own player, defenders getting in the way of each other. Its the same in real life but when you play the cpu they never do a misplaced pass or anything i mentioned before making it garbage, unplayable and predictable. Also the stupid fast game speed and the weird runnning animations

 

[Micho]

do you even play the game atall? because you always seem to be on here complaining?

last time i played was 2 days ago, i ran out of money in master league online so i only have 10 players in the squad with no money. i kept quiting from frustration, i quit around 10 straight games... i will not play this crap anymore, it makes me angry

yeah micho, i agree pes 2012 is far from being a realisic football game because of those annoying bugs and COM stupidness. Here for example, we all make mistakes in pes and whenever we go out to play in real life. But the cpu is so accurate and never make mistakes - every game i do a lot of misplaced passes, leaving the ball behind, shot deflecting off my own player, defenders getting in the way of each other. Its the same in real life but when you play the cpu they never do a misplaced pass or anything i mentioned before making it garbage, unplayable and predictable. Also the stupid fast game speed and the weird runnning animations

vs cpu i am not complaining, its a cpu anyway... i know it should be much better but my main complain is about the online shit human vs human... this game sucks in all modes... even practice, did you see how stupid and silly it is? Japanese silliness

 

[Anysecondnow]

what a great achievement... shall we call you football master?:doh:

Sure football master is fine...thanx. Now...when are you gonna stop crying like a f**kin baby? ''can someone please get all these kids off my thread!'',''I want real football!''. Pathetic little queer!. I notice you search through the threads to see who you can piss-off...very brave online...all the marks of a coward. Respect others on here and their views instead of being a smartass....dumbass!

 

[Micho]

Sure football master is fine...thanx. Now...when are you gonna stop crying like a f**kin baby? ''can someone please get all these kids off my thread!'',''I want real football!''. Pathetic little queer!. I notice you search through the threads to see who you can piss-off...very brave online...all the marks of a coward. Respect others on here and their views instead of being a smartass....dumbass![/QUOTE

:iransmug:

 

[markcross]

i hate to say this but this game is now starting to grow on me.... its funny but i think they mite of got it rite after all.... i think the key to defending now is stand off an let the attack break down cos if u slide in or chase the likes of messi ur screwed... anyway i am startin to clik onto the faster play. the prob for me is i was good at pes6 then they made changes to the game and the dribble control was very loose and so over the last few years i have got use to that but this game has resorted to more close control with the dribbleing and its just a matter of adjusting to the new game style.... however i may b completly wrong

 

[Micho]

i hate to say this but this game is now starting to grow on me.... its funny but i think they mite of got it rite after all.... i think the key to defending now is stand off an let the attack break down cos if u slide in or chase the likes of messi ur screwed... anyway i am startin to clik onto the faster play. the prob for me is i was good at pes6 then they made changes to the game and the dribble control was very loose and so over the last few years i have got use to that but this game has resorted to more close control with the dribbleing and its just a matter of adjusting to the new game style.... however i may b completly wrong

you dont need to adjust to a game... if the game is called football and you play/watch football in real life then you should play the game the same way you do it in real life... adjusting to a game means playing a different game. this is not football, this is a Japanese version of monkey football :no: