huh? have you not noticed my username is zzidane? he's my all time favourite player, do you know what type of player he is?
Ronaldo (Brazilian)
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huh? have you not noticed my username is zzidane? he's my all time favourite player, do you know what type of player he is?
wheresmark
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Abu.. have you noticed like 9 members are arguing against you, and not one is supporting you?
I play football sunday league and understand the game very well. Yes it is great to be an all round player, still doesnt make C ronaldo as phenomenal as Ronaldo was. Your making comments about a player you didn't even get to watch when he was in his prime because you were 2-3 years old - that's nonsensical.
I play football sunday league and understand the game very well. Yes it is great to be an all round player, still doesnt make C ronaldo as phenomenal as Ronaldo was. Your making comments about a player you didn't even get to watch when he was in his prime because you were 2-3 years old - that's nonsensical.
Galatasaray20
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well from MR.Gametight's option file , Ronaldo ( Brazilian ) is in free agents because I don't think hes in the game, so he created him , face and everything, roberto carlos, diouf etc.. , if you download the option file you also get licensed kits, but it depends on your region btw.
i can't help it if everyone thinks cr7 is a diver so he is 'crap'.
If you knew about football, again it's not all about scoring goals and being injured. Why do you think castrol did a tested to the limit with c.ronaldo and not anyone else. Because they are not multi-talented like cr7. Can anyone score a header in the dark where you can't see the ball?
If you knew about football, again it's not all about scoring goals and being injured. Why do you think castrol did a tested to the limit with c.ronaldo and not anyone else. Because they are not multi-talented like cr7. Can anyone score a header in the dark where you can't see the ball?
wheresmark
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lmao...... your joking right now arent you?
Castrol picked Cristiano ronaldo because he is the most marketable man in football behind david beckham. Not only is he good at football, but he is confident and he is good looking and lives a flash lifestyle and mixes with the stars, he is marketable. Are you really naive enough to think that the advert isn't all coerced?
And the header in the dark thing is just ridiculous lol.... he could have taken 50 takes to do that.. you don't know? maybe even I could do it? It has pretty much nothing to do with football.
I myself am one of Cristiano Ronaldo's biggest fans, I do think he goes to ground to easily but I don't think hes crap, he's great, he's just not as good as the original Ronaldo yet. He's not a legend yet.
I'm thinking now that you really have been taking the piss these last posts lol. Nobody with any sound football knowledge basis how good players are by what adverts they are in and what score they have on the current pes.
tested to the limit isn't fake - you should know that. When i first watched it on sky sports i thought it was fake but when i asked and searched it isn't and it is hard to admit. Also, konami stated they picked ronaldo, not messi anymore, because they needed a player that has abilities in energy, strength etc.
Trust me, he would be rated higher if he didn't care about looks, girls, hair and had a better attitude and more of a team player. Sure his mentality is improving. Even he admitted it in a champions league group stage match few months ago against dynamo zagreb people were booing him because they hate him of the fact that 'he has money and good looks' This is an example of his poor atttude and people disliking him.
Trust me, he would be rated higher if he didn't care about looks, girls, hair and had a better attitude and more of a team player. Sure his mentality is improving. Even he admitted it in a champions league group stage match few months ago against dynamo zagreb people were booing him because they hate him of the fact that 'he has money and good looks' This is an example of his poor atttude and people disliking him.
wheresmark
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Konami never stated that - find where they stated that please? They said very similar things about messi lat year, how he was the worlds greatest player. Anyway your moving away from the subject, I've never said C ronaldo isn't an amazing player, He's just not as good as Ronaldo.
http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/messi-no-longer-pes-cover-star/
Read it all and you'll see it says this
The new player has all the attributes of the new game, in that he is a strong all-rounder, skillful, fast, and capable of making magic happen on-field.
Read it all and you'll see it says this
The new player has all the attributes of the new game, in that he is a strong all-rounder, skillful, fast, and capable of making magic happen on-field.
wheresmark
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No it doesn't in the article? some people below comment on it... just as some are saying Ozil, some are saying Neymar etc etc, No where does Konami say that. Besides, they have had messi for 3 years, companies like change, and they had probably signed a deal with messi for 3 covers anyway, just being on the cover of PES doesn't mean you are better than another player haha, hell Michael Owen was cover star not too long ago? And Rooney is cover star of FIFA which outsells PES (obviously due to its aggresive marketing campaign and commercial appeal) but none the less Rooney covers that, does that make him better than Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi? lol.
One thing Ronaldo is better than Cristiano Ronaldo? His finishing ability, His body balance, his poise, his cool headedness, his ability to handle pressure, his desire for the game, his ability to play against the best players in the world and rip them up (Maldini, Costacurta and Cafu or Ferrara and Montero etc, Not Bacary Sagna lol) The team Ronaldo had behind him at inter was good, but no where near as good as the one Cristiano Ronaldo has now at Real, or even at Man Utd, and Ronaldo just played as a striker, the team wasn't geared around him, he just made the game his.
Ronaldo's close ball control was better than Cristiano's IMO (not talking about fancy dribbling) he also went past players alot better, for all Cristiano's amazing skill... alot of the time he is stationary doing the skills just waiting for the playerto make a move, he doesn't go around people as easy as Ronaldo did, or as messi does today... Pes terms for you - Mazing run > Trickster.
Ronaldo's main attribute that makes hin better is his mentality and his mind set, He had no fear at all, he was supremely confident, on the biggest stage he performed; he relished it. As you keep saying, yeah if Cristiano Ronaldo had a better attitude and didn't care about his appearance as much, and didn't do all the out of football things he would be a better player; Your right he would be, but he still does all those things so he isn't.
Who's Cristiano Ronaldo's idol btw?
One thing Ronaldo is better than Cristiano Ronaldo? His finishing ability, His body balance, his poise, his cool headedness, his ability to handle pressure, his desire for the game, his ability to play against the best players in the world and rip them up (Maldini, Costacurta and Cafu or Ferrara and Montero etc, Not Bacary Sagna lol) The team Ronaldo had behind him at inter was good, but no where near as good as the one Cristiano Ronaldo has now at Real, or even at Man Utd, and Ronaldo just played as a striker, the team wasn't geared around him, he just made the game his.
Ronaldo's close ball control was better than Cristiano's IMO (not talking about fancy dribbling) he also went past players alot better, for all Cristiano's amazing skill... alot of the time he is stationary doing the skills just waiting for the playerto make a move, he doesn't go around people as easy as Ronaldo did, or as messi does today... Pes terms for you - Mazing run > Trickster.
Ronaldo's main attribute that makes hin better is his mentality and his mind set, He had no fear at all, he was supremely confident, on the biggest stage he performed; he relished it. As you keep saying, yeah if Cristiano Ronaldo had a better attitude and didn't care about his appearance as much, and didn't do all the out of football things he would be a better player; Your right he would be, but he still does all those things so he isn't.
Who's Cristiano Ronaldo's idol btw?
i'm not even bothering to reply to that.
Every statement you said was incorrrect.
Firstly, i didn't say that a coverstar meant he is a good player, it just said konami said he is the best all-rounder. BTW, have you seen any of cr7 freestyle vids- like when he trapped the ball between his legs showing his technique. c.Ronaldo is more fit, fast and might not have better close control but knows every trick on the book.
I mean for cf, ronaldo can't even header or jump. And it's not c.ronaldo's fault that he verses defenders like puyol, pique or dani alves. They might not be good enough for ya. Ronaldo can't even get up quickly when he falls on the floor and did you see him in the world cup 2006? Sure he scored goals but he did a lot of miskicks which shows that his technique isn't great although he was 28 which should be the peak for a normal footballer which also shows his poor form as he reached his peak at 22. I mean he doesn't even take care of his weight which forced him to not play in the world cup 2010 and dunga said he didn't need him anymore as he is never on form and doesn't pay enough attention to his weight.
Wheras cr7 has gone through less critiscism. He scored the most goals ever in the la liga where ronaldo didn't and he won numerous awards for his playing style. Ronaldo ain't even a team player and he is just lazy. The only thing you mention is ronaldo fantastic goalscoring ability and did he even match hugo sanchez la liga goalscoring record?NO
You are also always talking about his close ball-control and cr7 isn't far behind him in terms of complete dribbles and solos. I think you are paying too much attention to realize cr7 phenominal ability
Every statement you said was incorrrect.
Firstly, i didn't say that a coverstar meant he is a good player, it just said konami said he is the best all-rounder. BTW, have you seen any of cr7 freestyle vids- like when he trapped the ball between his legs showing his technique. c.Ronaldo is more fit, fast and might not have better close control but knows every trick on the book.
I mean for cf, ronaldo can't even header or jump. And it's not c.ronaldo's fault that he verses defenders like puyol, pique or dani alves. They might not be good enough for ya. Ronaldo can't even get up quickly when he falls on the floor and did you see him in the world cup 2006? Sure he scored goals but he did a lot of miskicks which shows that his technique isn't great although he was 28 which should be the peak for a normal footballer which also shows his poor form as he reached his peak at 22. I mean he doesn't even take care of his weight which forced him to not play in the world cup 2010 and dunga said he didn't need him anymore as he is never on form and doesn't pay enough attention to his weight.
Wheras cr7 has gone through less critiscism. He scored the most goals ever in the la liga where ronaldo didn't and he won numerous awards for his playing style. Ronaldo ain't even a team player and he is just lazy. The only thing you mention is ronaldo fantastic goalscoring ability and did he even match hugo sanchez la liga goalscoring record?NO
You are also always talking about his close ball-control and cr7 isn't far behind him in terms of complete dribbles and solos. I think you are paying too much attention to realize cr7 phenominal ability
World cup winning medal. Oh and world cup top scorer
wheresmark
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I thought you weren't going to reply?
When Ronaldo played in 2006 he had gone through years and years of Injury nightmares, and was only just recovering from one at the time, he was unmobile due to his injuries and lack of fitness. Of course he coudln't get up quickly in 2006 after he fell up quickly lol - his knee was in peices, the ronaldo you saw in 2006 was literally 25% of the ronaldo in his peak.
Even when he was at madrid, he had gone through 3 years of injury hell, then having a good comeback season at Inter. Think of how good Cristiano Ronaldo was at 20-23 he was good but lacked alot, he didn't start coming into his prime until he was 24-25. Ronaldo never even got to play at his peak, and is still remembered as a legend.
Alves Pique and Puyol are good, but not even comparable to Cafu, Maldini and costacourta haha. Maldini is one of the top 4/5 defenders of all time, cafu isn't far behind. At the time the italian league was the best league in the world, with the toughest defences, every defence nearly was tough... the spanish league still has a big gap between great teams and not so great teams. Your talking about an era where you weren't about in, you were 0-3 when Ronaldo was in his prime, you don't know how good he was, so you can't comment, and you are commenting lookign stupid doing so lol. There's like 9/10 people who have told you that your wrong, yet you still think all of us are wrong even though we were around to see him and compare?
Tricks? This shows your football knowledge that you think tricks show how good a footballer is, ask anyone who plays football competatively. You obviously never have. Tricks don't make a good player. Most of it is determination, tenacity, confidence, coolness, intelligence, physical, then ball skills and game skills come into it. Cristiano Ronaldo hardly ever uses his tricks to get past people, He stops the ball with a couple of defenders around him and does all these tricks on the ball while stationary. When Cristiano ronaldo gets past players he usually uses his speed and his strength. Ronaldo used to use his ball control and his pace and strength. Messi uses ball control in a similar and probs better way now.
You like to say that he's not good in PES etc.. Ronaldo actually had a full computer game made just for him, where is C ronaldo's game made after him?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldo_V-Football
Just stop while your behind Abu, we aren't all telling you this because we hate C ronaldo, I love watching him, he's a truly great player, you just don't realise how good ronaldo was, and never will because you weren't here. Next you'l be saying C ronaldo is better than pele and Maradona....
to be honest, dani alves is better than cafu and is the one of the best side backs ever like hagi and roberto carlos. He has what it takes to be an sb.
Back to topic, everyone remembers ronaldo for his goal scoring but when you look at cr7, 76 goals in 73 games and he also beats the amount of time it takes to score a goal. He is untouchable and can give any defender nightmares. He is better at every aspect. Sure he scored 8 goals in a world cup tournament but he is more attackive and has the help of ronaldinho and other legends.
Also pele is another example of an overrated player. He was weak, lacked power but great at passing, finishing. Maradona and Eusebio are the true legends.
Back to topic, everyone remembers ronaldo for his goal scoring but when you look at cr7, 76 goals in 73 games and he also beats the amount of time it takes to score a goal. He is untouchable and can give any defender nightmares. He is better at every aspect. Sure he scored 8 goals in a world cup tournament but he is more attackive and has the help of ronaldinho and other legends.
Also pele is another example of an overrated player. He was weak, lacked power but great at passing, finishing. Maradona and Eusebio are the true legends.
I actually think you're taking the piss now, because your posts are just becoming more and more laughable. It's extremely obvious you zero football knowledge and you have never ever kicked a football in your life. you're knowledge on football is 100 percent pro evolution soccer related. You're from England and you're calling a full back a side back??? Yeah sure it's called that on PES but never from all my years of watching football, playing football, and discussing football, have I ever heard another person from England call a full back a side back. If you turned up training for a team and they asked you what position do you play mate, and you said side back, they'd either say 'you what mate?', 'are you american or something?', 'do you mean full back? right back or left back?' or just laugh at you. Side back lol.
And are you talking about the legendary Romanian Hagi? If so you really are having a laugh, he was an attacking midfielder not a 'side back' lol. But if you're talking about some other Hagi then I appologise.
Again you're saying things like Daniel Alves is better than Cafu. Don't get me wrong Dani Alves is a world class player, he's brilliant and one of the best right backs/wing backs in the world. But Cafu is another World Cup winning legend you've just shown absolute no respect for and obvious by your post you have no apprieciation for or probably have never seen him play, just heard about him. Cafu is a legend mate and was probably the best, if not one of the best right backs for years and years.
you guys think just because you win a world cup, you are magically the best player in the world.
PLEASE DON'T IGNORE MY QUESTION WHICH YOU ALWAYS DO.
What better abilities does cafu have instead of dani alves dumbass?
you are always saying 'probably the best, if not one of the best' but again you have no proof. I give my proof wheras you ignore half of what i say. Anyway dani alves is a fullback more of a sideback as he is constantly running up the flanks. The wholre brazilian team played poor in the world cup. Cafu got dominated by zidane in the world cup and if their is one player that have gifted ability it is zidane, not crappy cafu or other brazilian players who are overrated because they are brazilian.
Guess what, capdevila won a world cup.
Capdevila is the best left-back whatsoever.
I swear that noone can be as daft as you
PLEASE DON'T IGNORE MY QUESTION WHICH YOU ALWAYS DO.
What better abilities does cafu have instead of dani alves dumbass?
you are always saying 'probably the best, if not one of the best' but again you have no proof. I give my proof wheras you ignore half of what i say. Anyway dani alves is a fullback more of a sideback as he is constantly running up the flanks. The wholre brazilian team played poor in the world cup. Cafu got dominated by zidane in the world cup and if their is one player that have gifted ability it is zidane, not crappy cafu or other brazilian players who are overrated because they are brazilian.
Guess what, capdevila won a world cup.
Capdevila is the best left-back whatsoever.
I swear that noone can be as daft as you
I've answered too many of your dumb questions, but the reason I keep replying is because your idiocracy is quite entertaining. If you read my post I praised Daniel Alves as being world class and possibaly the best right back/right wing back in the world. And a defensive right sided player that is constantly running up the wings as you stated is called a wing back mate, I'm just helping you out there
.I didn't compare Cafu and Daniel Alves because they are both similar players from different eras. Both world class players. I did not compare them I had a go at you for showing lack of knowledge and lack of respect to another great player, that being Cafu, which you disrespcted him again in your last post by calling him crappy Cafu.
No not everyone who has won the world cup is the greatest player ever, I never said that, thats just you being stupid again, all I'm doing is defending great players you keep disrespecting and slagging off, and if that player has won a world cup, well I reckon that probably deserves a mention, if not then what's the point in the world cup? arguably the greatest sporting competition in the world. Is the world cup 06 the only one youve ever seen by the way? Because that's the only one you keep referring to in your deep oceon of football knowledge.
I'll tell you why Cafu was so great pal, because when I was growing up in the 90's, when I was probably the age you are now, Cafu or Thuram was the right back in everyones world dream team, and he was for many years. Which brings me onto my next answer to one of your questions, 'Why do I always say is the best, if not one of the best in the world?' Because who the best is is peoples opinions, and for me to say someone is the out and out best and no one is better is ignorant, it's impossible to say who the best is, but to say someone is up there with the best is fair. And you have no right to say Cafu wasn't great, or Dani Alves is better, because you have not witnessed Cafu play when he was in his prime, you was probably a baby at the time and have zero knowledge of how good he was, or being aware of what the game was like then, and who was considered to be the best players week in week out. It's the same for me, I cannot judge players like Pele, even Maradona and other players that are considered legends, because I was either not born, or too young to remember them, I just apprieciate them and respect elder peoples opinions that these players where greats. I can watch hightlights/clips of Pele and Maradona all day long and think yeah they where great, or yeah theyre ok, but I will never truelly know how good they was because I wasn't growing up in that era and never knew what life was like back then, or I was too young to understand.
Zidane is my all time favourite player, but I will never say he is the best ever, I'll always say he's the best, if not one of the best ever, because I have only seen what I have seen and not witnessed 60's, 70's, 80's greats, but respect that they where great because they're talked about and their legacy is remembered even today.
If you don't understand what I'm saying now, you will do one day.