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How to score on PES 2012

OnlyProEvo

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http://www.onlyproevolutions.com/2011/12/tutorial-how-to-score-on-pes-2012.html



The following tips deal with shots and the things you have to keep in mind regarding posture and position.
Besides the Shot Accuracy and Shot Power stats, the player’s position towards the goal is one of the most important factors when preparing a shot.

Align the player as well as possible
If the attacker faces the goal directly, the more likely a successful shot will be performed. The more the player has to turn his body while taking the shot, the less accurate and powerful the shot will be.

In this regard, the picture above is very important: Shots taken in a 90-degree angle will always be precise and powerful.

If the ball is aimed in a direction outside of this ideal zone, the probability of hitting the goal diminishes. Shots towards the area directly behind tend to be the least successful ones.

Special rules in the penalty area
Of course, there are occasions when you do not have enough time to better align the player.

And in some situations – with a forward getting the ball in the six-yard box facing away from the goal, for example – a shot while turning can be the only feasible solution before a defender clears the ball, particularly as accuracy and shot power are not of the highest importance anymore.

Nonetheless, it is important to know how the alignment influences the resulting shot. As a rule of thumb, align the player with the goal as well as possible whenever you get the chance.

Also check out the shot power guide - http://www.onlyproevolutions.com/2011/12/tutorial-shot-power-on-pes-2012.html

Quite a good summary from Konami, that should really help a lot of PES fans out.
 

ilyasmad

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I was one of the players who believe that the shooting is not broken. The only problem in Konami's part is just bad balance. Speaking of balance, there are plenty of balance issues in PES as jenkey proved to us in his patches. The core of the game is essentially the same between retail and jenkey's, i just think jenkey manages to tweak everything to perfection.

@Only Pro Evo,
Can you provide a tutorial of directions with analog stick, like what happens if you place it flat up or down, or diagonal up, and diagonal down.
I think with that plus the information you posted, someone can actually analyze of why shots usually goes down the middle, and sometimes go in completely wrong direction.

With that, we can accurately point out what exactly was wrong with the implementation in relation of user input, and produce constructive feedback to Konami. Personally, i think Konami takes our feedbacks the wrong way simply because it was not specific.

Which is kinda funny, they do not even know what's wrong with the game even with hints.
 
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walmo

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No offence but that 'tutorial' hasn't told us anything, infact if it was created by Konami for us then it's quite insulting and shows how out of touch they are.

I don't believe many of us are not aware that shooting with your back to goal and shooting at obscure angles will not result in much success. That isn't the issue, the issue is with getting your shot to go where you want it to i.e. not down the centre of goal when you are holding the direction towards the corner.

The theory according to many on here is to press straight up or straight down when shooting, but for me this usually ends up putting it wide more often than not. Why don't they explain the official way (they made the game, they know what it is) to place shots?
 

abu97

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No offence but that 'tutorial' hasn't told us anything, infact if it was created by Konami for us then it's quite insulting and shows how out of touch they are.

I don't believe many of us are not aware that shooting with your back to goal and shooting at obscure angles will not result in much success. That isn't the issue, the issue is with getting your shot to go where you want it to i.e. not down the centre of goal when you are holding the direction towards the corner.

The theory according to many on here is to press straight up or straight down when shooting, but for me this usually ends up putting it wide more often than not. Why don't they explain the official way (they made the game, they know what it is) to place shots?
But if you want it the shot to go to the left and it does, theres not much player individuality is there?

I just want PES 2011 passing back
 

walmo

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But if you want it the shot to go to the left and it does, theres not much player individuality is there?

I just want PES 2011 passing back

Sorry, not sure what you mean there, are you suggesting if I wanted to shoot to the left side of the goal I shouldn't be able to as you'd lose player individuality? :mellow:
 

abu97

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Sorry, not sure what you mean there, are you suggesting if I wanted to shoot to the left side of the goal I shouldn't be able to as you'd lose player individuality? :mellow:
Basically, if every player can shoot where he wants to, then what is the point of shot accuracy when every one you control can shoot it where they want
 

walmo

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Basically, if every player can shoot where he wants to, then what is the point of shot accuracy when every one you control can shoot it where they want

Think you are missing my point a bit, I'm not asking for shots to be exactly pinpoint where you want them, I just want to be able to choose what area of the goal I shoot at. You know, just like how every previous version of PES worked. I don't recall people ever complaining much about shooting in PES before, in fact it was always one of the games strongest points I thought, the fact they've decided to change it (for the worse) is typical Konami.
 

Griciu

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Basically, if every player can shoot where he wants to, then what is the point of shot accuracy when every one you control can shoot it where they want

Abu, the guy is right. You need to be able to place shots and they should go as and where you want them to go.

Now regarding your question. The way I see it, when shot accuracy and power comes into play, its all about your chances of scoring from a certain position. IE if messi has 98 shot accuracy and 85 shot power, then i should score 9 out of 10 shots from a certain position close to the goal, while aiming to the far post, whereas Marchisio with say 78 shot accuracy and 80 shot power will only score 6-7 out of 10 shots from that same position. That's what I want the stats to be, and thats what they should be.

walmo, what did you think of the demos? I remember shooting in demo1, how lovely it was.
 

abu97

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Abu, the guy is right. You need to be able to place shots and they should go as and where you want them to go.

Now regarding your question. The way I see it, when shot accuracy and power comes into play, its all about your chances of scoring from a certain position. IE if messi has 98 shot accuracy and 85 shot power, then i should score 9 out of 10 shots from a certain position close to the goal, while aiming to the far post, whereas Marchisio with say 78 shot accuracy and 80 shot power will only score 6-7 out of 10 shots from that same position. That's what I want the stats to be, and thats what they should be.

walmo, what did you think of the demos? I remember shooting in demo1, how lovely it was.
Understand him now and sure he's right but don't you think the shooting in demo 1 was awful? Shots were floaty and you could never actually blast the ball and it was more lofted than powered.

Now demo 2 shooting was special for me. For me it was the best shooting in the whole PES series- PES 2011 was too easy as you can score from anywhere and whenever you scored a goal you'd never be delighted because goals are so easy to score in the first place. In Demo 2, the ball adds more weight so when you shoot you get an exquisite feeling when the ball just travels in to the far corner. In PES 6 shooting was a bit too easy and shooting never felt exciting and finesse shots were overpowered.
 

MozzyEng

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If your playing football and you want to shoot right to the keeper, Its not that difficult. Vice versa if shooting left to the keeper, Not hard is it?. So tell me why its so difficult in this game?
 

abu97

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If your playing football and you want to shoot right to the keeper, Its not that difficult. Vice versa if shooting left to the keeper, Not hard is it?. So tell me why its so difficult in this game?
Probably because shooting would become too easy and you'd get every shot on target
 

MozzyEng

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True i agree. But surely there should be a touch more control over shooting. Agreed that if shooting was to easy, It would become a bore. Just feels like a lottery in front of goal sometimes!
 

Griciu

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Just feels like a lottery in front of goal sometimes!

My thoughts exactly! The whole feel of the game is a god damn lottery. Especially crosses in. Damn you can't do a thing if the CPU thinks the your opponent should score... so annoying..
 

MozzyEng

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At least it keeps the scorelines realistic!. Not like FIFA's 7-4 and 6-3 silly games. when im clean through 1 v 1 verses the keeper, I never know whats gonna happen, Usually a keeper save cause my shots drilled straight at him!.
 

walmo

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Probably because shooting would become too easy and you'd get every shot on target

You're still missing the point mate. Aiming a shot left does not mean that every shot should be on target. Some will go in the left corner, some will go just wide of the left post, some will fly miles wide, and some will go only slightly left of the keeper. This all depends on the stats of your player with a little bit of randomness thrown in. However, all are different outcomes of the same action, which was shooting for the left hand side of the goal. And indeed, if you have a player with poor technical ability, or someone like John Terry bearing down on goal then yes you will get the odd straight at the keeper or perhaps even going right instead.

Let me put it another way. You have the ball and you have a team mate in front of you and another to the left of you. You press to pass it to the one to the left of you, but the ball goes to the one in front of you. Your argument seems to be that this is ok as if the ball went to the player you were trying to pass it to then it would be too easy and you'd get every pass on target. You don't seem to be understanding that trying something and the success of what are trying are two separate things.
 

gunnerglow

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shooting on PES 2012 ROCKS!!! - i need to upload a video of some of the 30 yard thunderbolts vs MLO opponents, or the manual pass (L2 + A (x-box))goal from Berbatov that literally rolled over the line and stopped!!!!
 

abu97

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shooting on PES 2012 ROCKS!!! - i need to upload a video of some of the 30 yard thunderbolts vs MLO opponents, or the manual pass (L2 + A (x-box))goal from Berbatov that literally rolled over the line and stopped!!!!
Especially with mid-range curlers :)
 
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