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Took me months. Even when you catch it sweetly the keeper can tip it over the bar even when the ball is halfway over the line ffs. Very frustrating.

Must be Player v Comp only

I dont think there is a way to make the game hard and fun at the same time. Whenever i am conceeding goals etc and am battling for crucial results all i get is frustration.

Mmmmm well that sucks. I just moved and recently through my old PS2 out. Biggest mistake of my life. After seeing how good it looks on PS2 i have been asking around if anyone has 1 but they've all sold them or "I wanna keep it cos its a bit of history". So frustrating.

Cos people knowingly just hoik it to Messi and dribble with it like its all there is to do. I like Ferdinands idea aswell. If there was a ranking system then 1 way or another less people would use the big teams cos A. Either they havnt unlocked them or B. They wouldnt get many points for using them.

I got it from a Ronaldo free kick. I suggest tht

I would like to see a ranking system implemented. A really hard system. Like every 10 matches you win you unlock the next star up. So Lazio = 4* team, i get to 50 wins i then get to use R. Madrid. Any1 desperate to use them can only do so in unranked.

Sorry but i thought most pes fans visiting forums knew what WENB meant

Go to the WENB forums and read through the PS2 thread. There's a lot of good info in there on how to make it run smooth

What Pes need to do is to is to scrap everything they've ever done on next gen. The PS2 version of 2010 has been hailed as one of the best Pes' ever made and is definitely up there with pes 6 and pes 5. They really should consider to make this game next gen, if they build on the PS2 version...

[Major Facepalm]

Sounds like some gd playing though we couldnt be any further apart. Im on consoleand ur on PC and i only rly play online you only play offline. Fifa for the PC is shocking. DO NOT TOUCH!

^^ I do see where your coming from but after i used Liverpool on Fifa i fell in love with the game. In Fifa players like Riera, Mascherano and Kuyt are really good and i can be deadly with them but in Pes they're like controlling a team of braindead tortois'. You cant do anything with them. If...

True and i dont wanna bang on about it but its one of Fifas stregnths. Maybe Eto and Ronaldo arent like their real life counter parts but atleast the other 90% of players have stats which reflect them well. Pes needs to balence the stat thing out cos its rediculous atm and tbh it always has...

Ive said this befor but most people buy fifa for its licenses its just that now it coinsidently has good gameplay aswell.

Completely agree and these have been my thoughts aswell for a while. Imo Fifa has good player individualty. The players in Fifa have good stats and for example in Pes Skrtle is on the verge of being unmoveable (same with kuyt) yet in Fifa they are both lynchpins of the team. Kuyt especially. In...

Tbh if pes had the premier league license i think i can guarentee that sales would double and fifa's would be slashed.

How the fuck can you call me a doubter. Ive been here non-active and actively for years defending this game in the face of stiff opposition and fifa faithfuls hiding amongst us and i love pes and am extreemly positive about it all the time. Just because i like fifa doesnt mean i automaticly dont...

who's saying pes is bad

Yh pes rapes fifa in the shooting department but having said that in fifa i have scored some beautiful goals and goals which have come out of nowhere which have brought me to my feet pumping my fist. In pes though the speed and weight of the ball is so much better. The heading. In fifa its...