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  1. Amateur

    PES 2012 News, Screenshots & Videos [Index In First Post]

    Agreed. For example, Luis Suarez (Uruguay, Liverpool) is undoubtedly a world class players. He was world class at the world cup, and is showing great skills so far in the Copa America Tournament. I think that due to the nonexistence of movement within the space, Konami is forced into boosting...
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    I bet it's gonna suck

    The problem with PES is that Konami does not want to reinvent PES and instead is going down slowly but steady, year after year. That's not to say that FIFA is better, because FIFA is more or less the same shit. The fact that the Wii version of PES offered something new to the gamer, and yet...
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    PES 2012 News, Screenshots & Videos [Index In First Post]

    Dude, I respect your views, because I completely agree with you nine times out of ten. However, in this case, I think you are being closed minded about the idea that I'm putting across, you seem to be adamant about the classic PES ping pong game; on the other hand, I'm not thinking about an...
  4. Amateur

    PES 2012 News, Screenshots & Videos [Index In First Post]

    Agreed. Actually, it's quite simple to fix some of the obvious problems with the completely automatic approach that Konami wants to continue using. M-B6MbIEk_Q The gamer should be in control of the Zonal Marking. Manual Zonal Marking. SIMPLE. Attacker A passes the ball to Attacker B; on the...
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    PES 2012 News, Screenshots & Videos [Index In First Post]

    I do not necessarily agree with your point. Just commenting on the video. But the problem is very simple. Overlap: "the player is always anticipating your move" Zonal Defense: "The communication between the defensive and the midfield lines is much better, your ability as a player does not...
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    I bet it's gonna suck

    The difference between PES09 and PES10, FIFA09 and FIFA10, just tells you that there is something missing. PES11 was a massive improvement on PES10, but only in terms of execution because the fundamental areas of the game remain untouched. It is like you mentioned. One would think that a bunch...
  7. Amateur

    PES 2012 News, Screenshots & Videos [Index In First Post]

    First of all, my apologies for my exaggerated reaction a few posts back, I have a bad habit of overreacting, particularly when discussing PES. As for PES. I agree with the point that PES11 offers more than the PS2 versions of PES. My main frustration with the series is that you can still play...
  8. Amateur

    PES 2012 News, Screenshots & Videos [Index In First Post]

    I also started at PES4 or PES3, more or less at the same time as you, and I just cannot find PES11 as innovative as PES5 was five years back. Anyways. It's just a matter of opinion.
  9. Amateur

    PES 2012 News, Screenshots & Videos [Index In First Post]

    When was the first time you played PES5? I think PES5 and PES6 were good enough for their time, the stats concept was still relatively innovative at the time, the game felt like it was going places, etc. But then five years down the line, you notice that the game has not fundamentally...
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    Awful Dreadful Game

    I think the ratio is higher with the people who defend the game than with the people who attack the game. 7 out of 10 "fanboys" will talk about their own ability as gamers, as if it made their argument better. 5 out of 10 "haters" will talk about the game being shit, hence why shit gamers are...
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    PES 2012 News, Screenshots & Videos [Index In First Post]

    Or maybe. Just maybe. Old PES games such as PES5 and PES6 were released in 2005 and 2006. Meaning that at the time, flawed video games such as PES5 and PES6 were certainly good enough. On the other hand. The video game that you hilariously described as "substantial" is in fact one of the...
  12. Amateur

    PES 2012 News, Screenshots & Videos [Index In First Post]

    That's not true at all mate. Have you ever seen 10 MINUTE highlights? 20 MINUTE highlights? It is true that it is impossible to produce a proper football simulation if you want to squeeze all the substance into a 5 MINUTE game. However, 10 MINUTES and 20 MINUTES are more than enough to produce...
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    I ask for 3 main things as far as gameplay

    Is it realistic that Argentina are better than Barcelona simply because Argentina has faster players? That's not realistic at all mate. PES11 is an arcade game, it's not realistic in any way, shape, or form. The substance of the game is clearly missing, which is why teams like Argentina, with...
  14. Amateur

    PES 2012 News, Screenshots & Videos [Index In First Post]

    I never described my idea as "manual". I mean, pressing and releasing the L2 button, and the player moving in accordance to a preset script CANNOT be described as something "manual". Though having said that. I am talking about the stats determining how and when I can use the stats, but...
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    Engineered by Idiots

    I think you are mistaking opinion with fact. To say that PES11 does many things right is just very subjective. You think that PES11 is realistic and substantial, cool. But it does sound highly patronizing when you talk about your opinion as if it was a fact.
  16. Amateur

    PES 2012 News, Screenshots & Videos [Index In First Post]

    The "script thingy" cannot be fixed, because the "script thingy" is the foundation of PES. PES12 will have the "script thingy" without a doubt, maybe in a slightly different way, but it will be there at the end of the day. PES12 will only offer a new cursor change system and improved AI, but...
  17. Amateur

    Scrypted Game Momentum should really END now.

    You make a solid argument. I agree with most of your points. The real question is, as far as I'm concerned: how would you fix the momentum? In my opinion. The only way PES can truly progress, is if the momentum is completely reinvented. The problem with scripting, is that it determines if your...
  18. Amateur

    Fixing gameplay is the key!!!!

    Real life players move in accordance to the position of the ball. If you can manually determine the direction in which the player runs without the ball, you destroy the essence of the game. And I do not even understand what you are complaining about. Because in PES11 you can determine the...
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    I'm going out of my mind!!!

    Konami is not interested in producing the best game ever. Konami just wants to make more money. That is why Konami does not want to implement new ideas into their game.
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    Fire Everyone

    And why the hell would I give a shit about FIFA selling better than PES? FIFA always sold better than PES. The fact is that Konami does not need to sell 2 million copies on a yearly basis in order to finance the production of their product. Releasing a product every two years sounds good enough...
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