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Not to start shit with you ( again ) but you have avoided my question too: Why are you on here if you think PES2010 will be shit? Why arent you on a FIFA fourm? You keep dodging this question man.

I agree with the parts in bold. You really cant give your honest opinion on that site. I dont play PES2009 nor FIFA2009 but in all honesty PES2010 ( from the video that I posted ) looks good to me. How can people not see difference?

Lol...you'll be back.

Got it! PES6 is really THE game of games. @ Shaun Completely agree about the dribbling aspect. BTW - have you seen that video I posted a few posts ago? I thought it was impressive.

Opinion is opinion. I cant take that away from you. I just hope you are not thinking that FIFA10 will be a big imrpovement. We rightfully slate pes. Why not FIFA? When will FIFA get individuality? When will FIFA have longevity and be fun to play for more than a month? When will FIFA...

Has anyone seen this video? ( it takes a bit to load ) http://multiplayer.it/video/pro-evolution-soccer-2010-per-ps3/pro-evolution-soccer-2010-pes-2010-videoanteprima-gamescom-2009.hi/ Yeh the difference is not 'TOTALLY NEW GAME' but its HUGE. Honestly, I think its a very big difference. It...

Not the slightest idea. I know thats in Cologne, Germany. But I have no idea what time it is. I reside in the states. WENB and PESFAN will probably be posting videos. Everything makes it back to PESGAMING tho.... Maybe you should make a section where people can post there GAMESCOM...

Same here, no megaton expectation. But I do think that it will be the more FUN of the 'two giants' and that it will be a VERY good game. A stepping stone like you said. I expect PES2011 to fully retake its throne. PES2010 could be on par with FIFA10 ( this might be the case with...

Used to enjoy it until I realized that PES2008 and PES2009 should have been so much more on these 'next gen' contraptions. PES2010 will be an immensely fun game, that's almost a given. I am just happy that its back on the right track and more.

Not enough. Thats just honest. 30 at least.... Dont see how its not possible. oh well. Just get the gameplay right.

Hehe I never have problem with anyone really. Its a game. And this is a forum. It isnt real life so what happens here is of no importance in that regard. I come on here only because of my love for the sport and the enjoyment I ( used to ) get from playing PES. Now I hope we can help...

PES6 on xbox 360 had great gameplay. Everything else tho....barebones

Yeh, it was a 2 day ban or something. No biggie. And thank you.

The XBOX 360 version is flawless and fluid ( according to WENB ). The PS3 is not optimized yet. The versions will be identical.

PES2009 got a 7.2 .....which makes their playtest ( and indication of switching back over to PES ) that much sweeter...

Top 10 football franchises according to goal.com hehe http://goal.com/en-us/news/114/mexico/2009/08/18/1447139/top-10-football-computer-games-of-all-time

no doubt tho license is not an issue for me gameplay made PES nd thats the only thing that can break it

the play testers can talk bout game today not sure if big reveal aka 360 dribble pass can b talked bout tho

Been wondering about this. Since you guys are 'tight' with KONAMI nowadays, will it affect the option file?

So Bundesliga is in? With fake teams?