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No, its not a stpid thing to say. What is stupid to say is: " 360 movement? Of course itll be good! what can go wrong?" Well my friend what can go wrong is that by FIFA10 ( after about 15 years of these games ) I still don't feel the difference between playing with Barcelona and...

Tech_skill You are funny ( and VERY annoying and its obvious you are provoking )....ill keep this short though: PES passing CPU assisted? Yes it is and that's a great thing imo. Why? Because the stats actually matter in pes...whereas in FIFA you can have ASTON VILLA and you can have BARCELONA...

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From the playtests. what i have read. it means that defenders will close you down quicker once you receive the ball. The ball will be passed more and move quicker....but the players themselves will be slower. If you ask how that is possible that the game is slower but defenders are quicker to...

Sure is hehe. But really...I know konami is a big business and we dont owe to them to be loyal. They havent been very loyal to us lately. So the reason I am quite optimistic about this PES is simply that the what they played and 50% and thought that the game ( the ai and the tactics )...

Well what are your expectations then? Have you not read WENB ( and ign's and PESFANS amongst others ) about how much realism the team play and card system bring to the table? This is TEAMVISION the way it was supposed to have been to begin with. Come on man, you are saying its not looking...

Oh dont get me wrong: I have pre ordered PES 2010 as well. I have faith in this version. And what I meant by we should reserve judgment until it is out: We should not be saying ye PES ANIMATIONS SUCK, SAME GAMEPLAY, MM is the SAME. etc. Because we have not seen this game but a 50% build...

You guys are ridiculous. Seriously. Wait till the games are out man. And for you TECH: You keep going on and on abot this FIFA steamrolling pes. Do you sitll not realize that FIFA has no lasting appeal? You even said that it needs to work on being more fun for a long time i.e lasting...

Not to defend pes ( and ignore my username please ) but for real now. Do you really not know the answer to your question? One thing that 99.7% of people on forums complained about was how the past 2 PES games were so arcadey. Konami wanted to show that the direction they are taking...

http://pes2008editing.blogspot.com/ good stuff...some screens

Have to agree that FIFA 09 passing game ( for the most part ) is better than pes. Not sure if people missed it or what....but PES2010 will have POWER BARS for passing... its been in one of the official press releases

@TEch Come one man. I understand where you are coming from but you are talking like you have already played FIFA10. About their managers mode: FIFA has always had more TEAMS, STADIUMS, SPONSORS, REAL CURRENCY, a BOARD, and so on. Those are not new. The game is just VERY boring after a few a...

You sound like a very confident person who has already played with '360 movement' and realize that its the next big thing...or you are just stupid and jumping to conclusions... I'd go with the latter

I understand what you are getting at. But the fact is, like you mentioned, FIFA games become repetitious and boring after only weeks whereas the PES of old would keep you going for months, if not till the next release. I had FIFA09, and believe me when i say, I was blown away by it initially...

Targeting you? Only because the way you lash out at everyone and starting cursing at everything that moves. Believe me when I tell you: I know how shit KONAMI are. But they have made strides this year that I have never before seen from there to connect with the community. So, I am willing...

Tech Skill... I would really like to know what your point is? You come here and bash this game so bad ( and many points I agree with you ) but you just seriously make PES2009 out to be the WORST football game ever. Its a GOOD game just not up to the standards we expect, so chill out man.

Why is it so hard to believe that its only a 50% build?...the code Konami are CURRENTLY working on is probably at around 70-80% complete. They just dont want to show off the whole thing. The animations are coming. I really dont see why people are freaking out about this. This game will move...

1) That is why i said MET ON HERE....meaning on this site. I know I havent met you persoanlly and I doubt that many others have you in person either....( we already went over your social life or lackthereof I should say ) 2) The really is no point in you saying that really... I doubt that...

Ok I understand waht u mean now. Not that I agree with it all but oh well... I think we both can agree that PES2010 has to be the best pes they have made...not necessarily RATINGS wise ( like reviews and stuff ) but more so that if you put the best PES side by side....meaning PES5 v PES6 v...

You ( and i mean this sincerely ) are probably the single most DUMBEST person I have met on here. I still stand by what I said about you not having much of a social life. I think you jsut come on here to start shit. Are you telling me what to play? If I wanna freaking play PES on the PS2...