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I agree the positioning can be erratic to say the least, but the consider the alternative... Perfect positioning, swinging the balance in favour of defenders over forwards? What is perfect positioning anyway? Your idea in any given phase of play my be different to mine. I think the...

Another vote for Shaw. I like Chapi, too.

I'm with Red Owl on this one. Speed is good, but power is greater (bit like torque vs bhp in cars). Obviously the ideal is to have both, which is why certain players (and Mourinho's Chelsea) are (were) so bloody annoying. Argentian are not a powerful team. They are excellent passers and...

Yes, it's annoying, but it can also offer you an advantage. So your RMF comes over to the left for a left-sided throw - has the oppo LB followed him? Nope. You now have an advantage, I think... If the Holy Grail of attacking football is fluid football, moments like these should be savoured...

Don't like. Doesn't this pull you out of shape? I agree with not diving in unless you're last man. Forcing someone round you/getting to try something by being patient and jockeying the man in posession is an effective form of defence, but... ...it's not easy. No quick fixes. It's why...

Always autosave. It's like life, innit?

Tag = inny (Must admit I do use top teams sometimes, but only against opp who use them too!)

Master League can be very hard, even on 'friendly' difficulty levels. When friends have started playing PES and have asked how to get good, I've always say play a Master League for a few seasons! This was before the 'soft option' of starting with, say, the 'real' Arsenal. The default players...

I'm interested in the ML players to keep part aspect of this thread. I actually got rid of Gutierrez because I got a good offer and needed the money. I have kept El Moubarki, Ruskin, Lothar, Van den Berg and Dodo. They fully deserve their places in my squad. I'm not really interested in...

^^^^what he said^^^^ Have also noticed that player dev is not following red line, despite the 'give them a run-out' strategy, which I've benn employing. Actually thought this was good thing, as if they followed the red line too closely, it would take bit of the fun away, wouldn't it? This...

I've got Fredrickson and Fischer from the Newcomers, but they'll need some nurturing. Another vote for Mathieu and Richards here...perhaps even a reborn Thomas Helveg [possibly my favourite full back EVER]? Do an advanced search, Mr OP....

I think four defenders is just right in terms of balance and flexibility. But, as with any formation, and as The Eristic points out above, you need the players to do it. My eyes actually literally light up when I see I'm up against a back three...

Does this thread include Rookies? Sorry for being ignorant. If it does, then Duffy is quality [the Irish Makalele, according to me]. He's not as high profile as Bos, Shimizu, Shaw, etc. If we're talking real players, then Francia [Arg. and somewhere in France] has been a faithful servant for...

On Special Abilities... ...the Defensive Line star is always one I look out for in CBs; less likely to get offside traps wrong ....the Side/Centre stars is useful for wide players to add a bit of variety ...the Positioning star is more apparent if you use the radar a lot ...the...

Surely the best thing to do is avoid these people - if we can - and beat them when we can't. And, of course, belittle them in forums like this. Barca players signing off with "That's Not Fair" when I've beathen them makes me feel....incandescent...

Yep, agree with this totally. Speed is just one factor. I play a lot with Juve who are certainly not blessed with pace [Marchionni and Camoranesi being the honourable examples] and I really enjoy it. You have to accept: a) you will not skin people b) you will have to defend intelligently...

Yes, I agree. Got to get over this obsession with ranking points. Maybe when I get up to 550 I'll play more friendlies...[easily pleased, I know] Online tag is Inny, btw, if anyone's evr up for a game...

There are a lot of poor things with the game on PS3. The good news is that if you get in online, the latest patch has made the game acceptable [except for the replays].

Yes, well done. Dedication's all you need...

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