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I haven't noticed it all the time. I tried it today, took Messi down the wing and boy did it feel good! Second time it didn't work an Bayern came back 2-1!

If only such hacks could be applied on to the PS3.

So I downloaded the FIFA 10 demo and I prefer PES 2011.

Oh man this sucks. I was one of the few that was happy when one was good and the other bad. Now that both games are good I can't make up my bloody mind!

I didn't expect mixed reactions in a PES forum after that terrific demo (PES 11) was released. I have only tried the PES demo I like it bar the "floaty" controls (I can't quite place a finger on it) and the rather sensitive Ref. It would be silly to have 2 football games even though both...

Nice man! Can't go wrong with those 2.

You were correct all along Bru! This year PES will finally have the better game (not that FIFA is bad, just doesn't warrant a new purchase IMO). Ah forget Adam/Dave, its sad to see grown men argue over a videogame. Hope you pre-ordered NBA2K11. Along with PES, those 2 will be all that...

In the PM GMT according to most sources.

From what I have read on the FIFA forums (talk about biased), there are several complains and mixed feelings. Too fast, too easy seem to be the most common along with "More of FIFA 10.5 than FIFA 11". I think we're on the right boat for once.

And I hear its in the PM for the PS3. This should be the year guys, first time since 08 that I am not buying FIFA! :)

I am hearing alot of complaints on the Ref. Apparently far too many fouls are being called and this is even with good clean tackles. Is this true? Is the game flowing ok?

In general, is it better than FIFA WC/10 (if you have played those). Is it really THE PES? Like PES 6?

Right here with you bro! I need to know that it justifies the download (leave alone the purchase). I've been reading impressions over at Pesfan and they seem generally positive. Not "WOOOW, AMAAAZING" more like "Good.. good.not bad..". Then again its still early and only the minority have the...

Its out. Turn on Auto downloads. Impressions peeps!

oh shuttlecocks!

Aight People, This here thread is simple. I've seen enough mixed opinions in this year's PES, more so than any year. By Wednesday, people will have tried the demo and since the demo will be the final build, we shall know if old faithful has returned or not. But during this long wait, I want...

I can't say its a shame on Konami's part because frankly speaking they are a global company with hundreds if not thousands of employed professionals and over a dozen years of expirience. Hence, there cannot be an excuse on the lack of marketing or advertising just as much as there can't be an...

But you are a Chelsea supporter...joking lol

Nonono! You will not have Chelsea FC or Spain. You've been a naughty boy. Ah.. I feel bad, tell you what, how about I give you Bayern Munich? Thats German.. There then, you've got Bayern Munich in the Demo. As for US release, November 2nd..just because you've been a little perv!

Jon Murphy twitted: "It's as early as we could make it. It's based on final code and we had to wait for approval of that" source:http://twitter.com/jonmurphy_pes