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Sorry Mak, I can offer no advice for PES 12 but i have seen many others complain of the speed merchants. The game is a little too arcadish for me at this point. I am looking to see how PES 2013 pens out.

I am not a fan of users who uses glitches or exploits to win....but what mode are you playing online.... I think that in Head to Head you are coupled with teams similar in star rating....so a strong team will always face a similar opponent. I usually choose Flamengo .....but at the same...

What ...:shocking: Well mate.. whatever the furck you said above......i fully agree. You win .. :bravo: PS...no need to reply.....no really...OK? :erm:

You know what, now that i think about it ........i think you and the rest of followers are right...goddammit!:shocking: Selling millions of anything doesn't make it better... just more popular. I was blinded by the millions of idiots online each day just playing and playing the...

What the hell does this have to do with the size of my penis? :unsure: :realmad:

I knew it.....:ohmy:

Wow.. They do find these weird hacks online that catches you of guard at times. I would have quit at 3-0. I learned my lesson when i beat a dude with a small team in Ultimate Team...he had all the big names but i defended with my life and countered in the last minute with Ronaldinho and...

You must live under a rock or something Shaun..... Fifa outsells PES by 25 to 1 ..who is ignoring the obvious here? I am starting to think that you might one of them dudes who rides the "special bus" to school each day. :blush:

Sure it is ...sure it is!:tongue: Well 45 people here are definitely buying PES 2013 ..that will sure hurt Fifa this year...:flip:

Oohh so you are saying that you played Fifa 11 but not Fifa 12? Does this mean that you have yet to realize the improvements made to the game over a year. Why do i mention you? Whilst everyone will just mention that they prefer PES style of game over Fifa (nothing wrong there) ...you...

Sup Menace, Glad to see you voicing your opinion on both titles...even if you lean more to Fifa like i do. However, trying to make points to Shaun is really not necessary. The reason being that he does not play Fifa. He may have dabbled a little trying learn the game and found out how...

:shocking: Dude, you have said over and over again that you do not play Fifa. Its fine to not like the game ..its your own prerogative..but don't just come here and make some bulllshit scenario trying to make the game look bad. I have been playing Fifa since 09 and none of that sheeit...

Nope!!! I haven't bought a PES game since 2009, won't waste my money on this. As long as Konami continues to release current editions of PES on the same game engine as the PS2, there is no need for me to indulge. I already have a PES with overpowered shots, ping pong zippy passes, 16...

:no: That's the most retarded thing i have heard in my entire life. So let me get this.....you get a chance to choose any team you like and you chose a shit team, your opponent chooses a team with a speed merchant and kicks your biach arsse......AND ITS HIS FAULT. :w00t So why the...

Whhhhuuuuuut??:w00t And there you have it ....as i mentioned before ...just say the word Fifa and watch the veins pop in their foreheads. :) Calm down bro .....its just a video game. :no: Its an open forum....why couldn't you do like the rest. Read and skip my post. Sheeittt! Follow...

Sup Ziss, It is rare to see anyone here who joined this site before i did...what brought you back bro? I just stick around the piss the shit out some old folks here by mentioning the word "Fifa". If you could only see the veins pop out of their foreheads in rage. :w00t Like you, I...

True about Pes 12, but we are looking for some balance. Demo 1 revealed the the outside shooting flaw pretty quickly. Whilst they have toned it down a bit in demo 2...it is still there. Van Persie is a beast on this...the bitch can score from almost any angle from any distance. Next ...i am...

Thank you Gri..:D Just trying to keep the balance on biases...bro.

A lot of us (Fifa Defectors) are enjoying the new demos...but for me the game is waayyy tooo easy on all levels. I can score on 60% of my shots. Passing is like scud missles...even if my player is marked, he can still receive the ball. Trapping (R2) has made turning and shooting even...

Sup Possibly returning player, The answer is pretty simple. Buy PES 2013 this year and see it meets any of your demands. It is also a plus that you have played Fifa and can compare the pros and cons of both games. But please bear in mind that PES is not what it once was.. and this...