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I am serious, PES09 is shite. I can basically eat whilst playing this game, there's so much Time and Space on the pitch it isn't even funny. PES6 is a better Football Sim, it Feels fresher even though it seems older to the eyes. PES6 forced me into Thinking Faster, even when I was 7-0 up, I...

Yeah, that's because I'm disappointed with all the games in general. I expected better from Next Gen Consoles, I thought games would get more serious.. Instead they are becoming easier and easier, like if they where intended for kids. It really disappoints me to see so many fans actually asking...

Bla, bla, bla.. Just another person in this forum who reads but doesn't listens. Either that, or you just don't even bother reading or listening, I don't know.. coming from someone who considers PES09 a "challenge". It really doesn't puzzles me WHY you bother typing such responses. Or is the...

Agreed.. I can't really say PES is better than FIFA anymore. I can also see that PES has turned into something like FIFA. The feeling's not there, the Responsiveness is not there, the "replay value" definitely isn't there. This isn't PES anymore. And I must say that it's good to hear you say...

GENIUS. With just a few words, that's The Bottom Line. Which aspects of the game would you like to Control and Master??

This is WHY the Gameplay needs New Concepts, because the game is starting to show its Age more and more with each passing year. Now that I think about it, I think the PS2 versions of PES6 shows less age than the New one. Graphics are poor on the PS2 versions, but the Gameplay quality was much...

I find it ridiculous, that Anyone would be "ok" with PES09. And I find it amazing that anyone would think of PES09 as a more "realistic" version. Regardless of Konami's Interests, it is irrelevant to the FACT that PES09 is an embarrassment of a game. If you cannot see that, for some reason...

Agreed, completely agree. The Com dictates everything from off-the-ball movement to tackling, leaving Us with Little to do. The only thing we decide is How and When to Pass or Shoot the ball. I don't think that's rewarding or realistic at all. WHY is it that I rarely read comments like this??

Biggest Improvement?? I wouldn't know where to start.. for one thing PES09 is BS, it is a Football Sim for the "casual gamers". It also turns "hardcore fans" into "casual gamers" who lost Interest in the series after experiencing their latest embarrassment. But the Biggest Improvement for me...

Now I can fully acknowledge just How Important the "Response" is for a Football Sim. Responsiveness, this is what all the FIFAs including 09 lacked, this is also what PES09 lacks.. Now I can fully appreciate just how important it was for the series, without it PES doesn't feels like The PES...

The Tevez roulette looks cool in the game, but honestly I think I've never seen Tevez doing a "roulette" in real life. Oh well.

And I suppose PES09 does??

That's exactly what I though the first Few Weeks I played PES09. But the Bottom Line is that PES6 is clearly better than PES09. There are just so many ways of scoring easy goals in PES09, the easiest one is just stroking the ball around from side to side until the opposition defenders start...

That's the same problem I have with PES09, I find it easier than PES6. In the PS2 version of PES6, be it for the responsiveness or other factors, when I played the game I felt I had to Think faster than when I play PES09. Somehow when I play PES6 I have to Think more. Whereas in PES09 there's...

Dude, just stay with the PS2 versions of PES, the Next Gen Versions are a waste of time. By the way, don't expect improvements for PES 2010, it has become abundantly clear to me that Konami won't make the proper improvements. Next Year Improvements?? Champions League featured on Master League...

PES09 is a simplified game for casual gamers. I agree, PES6 was better. Funny thing is that IF Konami put out a version of PES6 with PES09's graphics, it would trash both FIFA09 and PES09 Gameplay wise. Not one of the Next Gen PES versions feels like PES, for me the series just lost its...

Hey that's your opinion and I respect that. I really thought PES09 would grow on me but, it just feels too Minimalistic, to the point where I feel like I'm only Shooting or Passing the ball. I mean, in PES09 I have scored countless of goals by just having a long range shoot with some power...

Nah, I think PES6 was more realistic, but one of the main issues was that it was too easy to do just about anything Inside of the Box. Which makes it kind of funny, because even though you can See that the players kind of close you down faster in PES09 -you- still get a greater sense of Urge...

Well I don't follow, what PES are you talking about?? I played PES6 the PS2 version and it had the Edit Mode.

Agreed, for some reason I'm better with Aguero, than with Messi.