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Can you confirm that Boca Juniors will be in the game?? Would be a big plus for me, really like Boca. I think Boca Juniors would make a great Team for Online Mode, it isn't a Team filled with super stars (like Barcelona, Brazil, Argentina, etc, etc..) -but- it still haves some Individuals in...

The Pace is Significantly Slower, thing is that the Arcadish Player Movements make it look a lot Faster. Judging by the footage I've seen, I think PES09 will look very arcadish -but- will Play like the Old versions.

The PES one looks more Realistic.. FIFA's version looks too cartoony for my liking, good Face, but a bit too cartoonish. Would like to see the same comparison with other players; Francesco Totti, Juan Roman Riquelme, Van Nistelrooy, Steven Gerrard, Robinho, and a few others.

Yeah well, you have to start somewhere.. A New Engine will be a positive change in the Long run, Konami cannot keep falling behind. I also hope PES09 is as good as PES5 -as- PES5 would easily last me 2 or 3 years.

I don't follow, what's all this about "Face packs", etc, etc.. I don't have much experience with patches, etc, etc.. Considering I didn't need them before because of the Edit Mode. But, after PES08, I'd like to know about Alternatives.

OK.. Cool.

Notice any Difference?? Graphics and Gameplay.. That's PES09 I think, the 1st Football Sim to offer good Gameplay coupled with good Graphics. However, PES 2010 could be the game to finally offer; Graphics, Gameplay + Player Movements. Anyways, I agree; FIFA gets boring very quickly -whereas-...

Game looks Fun to play -but- the Movements look extremely arcadey. I think that's why Magazines are saying that FIFA09 is "the truer representation of Football" -because- the Animations and Movements look more Realistic in FIFA. Maybe if PES09 had much better Player Movements we would be...

Completely agree.. I'm one of those fans who used those Features, "Preset Faces" and "Special Hairstyles" -I- thought it was a great Face Editor, even managed to create Accurate versions of Valderrama, Romario, Van Basten, Le Tissier, Bobby Moore, and a few others. And like you, I'm extremely...

Sad but true, the crappy Movements take from the Gameplay.. "Looks" extremely arcadey. But then again, FIFA looks better in terms of Movements and Animations -but- the Gameplay still isn't as good as the Old versions of PES. PES09 looks just as arcadey as PES08, in terms of Player Movements...

That's exactly what I was trying to say, Most players in this still pics look almost Identical to PES08.. But, during Gameplay -the- Graphics look Improved, the lighting looks a lot more realistic. There is no way FIFA haves better looking players. They look disproportioned, and 70% of the...

I never said Leo Messi didn't looked good.. As a matter of fact, I think Messi is spot-on. I was just saying that Faces are Important, no one likes to play with players who do Not look like themselves. And yes some Faces are definitely Improved -but- judging by the huge loads of pics I've...

You prefer a real Stadium to proper-looking Classic Players?? Why?? Who notices the Stadiums during Gameplay.. Honestly, I don't care about Stadiums, I don't even notice in wich Stadium I'm playing during Gameplay. The issue isn't the Stadiums -the- issue is the Lack of Life, you just don't...

Great post.. One of the few that have Mentioned the fact that Konami no longer offers the same Editing Mode. Whatever happened to choosing "Default (Real) Faces" and mixing them with "Special Hairstyles"?? In my Opinion, it is completely contradictory to what "Next Gen" stands for.. instead of...

I have to agree.. there's the Improved faces such as; Cristiano Ronaldo, Steven Gerrard, Leo Messi, Juan Roman Riquelme, and a few others.. But 90% of the Faces look exactly the same as PES08 -but- with improved Lighting effects. The Gameplay Graphics look improved -but- I have to say, those...

Ronaldo is in the Brazil squad, already saw his name in the Brazil squad.. Don't know about his Stats. I think they should keep him the same, as Class is permanent.. but his "Condition" and "Injury" should be very poor, he can barely manage to play without getting injured. A shame really.

Is it any surprise?? I think PES09 will be a brilliant game based on the good Old versions of PES.. But somehow, PES09 "being the perfect game for newcomers to switch" -sounds- as though PES09 is a transition. Maybe PES 2010 will be the New Game we've been asking for. Waiting another year for...

Thuram will probably be a "PES Shop" Player.. Anyways, what always annoys me about it is that Konami usually haves Retired players such as Liliam Thuram and Jaap Staam in the PES Shop. But they always fail to Include players such as Zinedine Zidane, Roberto Baggio, Romario, Maradona, Pele...

Agreed.. as far as I know, PES08 didn't even existed.

Completely agree.. Konami needs a New Engine capable of finally bringing the players to life. The movements in PES09 are dull and mechanic, it isn't what I expected from a Next Gen Football Sim. Anyways, thing is that Konami needs a New Engine and a New Game -because- fans and magazines are...