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This so-called "Evolution" is too Slow.. I think they need a bigger Team -because- the yearly updates are just Unacceptable, at this rate we'll see a New game by 2013. Forget about the Stadiums.. we Need a New Engine Capable of finally bringing the players to Life. The current Animations and...

You do have a point.. This is only Konami's 2nd try at Next Gen Consoles, so we shouldn't expect nothing Revolutionary or Perfect. But at least, I would expect a version of PES5 with good Graphics -and- a proper Editing Mode.

Thing is that a Next Gen Console are easily capable of 100%. So you can see why some of us feel a bit annoyed by it.

Yeah, but I would bet those aren't In-Game pics.. they just use the same Situation and just change the players. It shows just How Lazy konami is.. Gameplay Footage looked good though.. so we'll see when the game comes out. Top or Flop??

That's pretty much what I think, I just thought PES5 was much better. Maybe PES08 wasn't all that bad -but- we all expected more from a PES Title, even more considering this is a Next Gen Title. I hope PES09 re-introduces that "PES5 Magic".. the Graphics would be the icing on the cake.

Completely agree. That's what Tweaks are for, Konami should fix those "Weaknesses" year after year -until- a decent Level of Realism is finally accomplished. Cut Backs, Dummy Shots, Wing Play, Through Balls that are impossible to Intercept, etc, etc.. all those Flaws should be fixed. If we...

I don't know, I think the PES series has lacked something after PES5.. that Aspect of Individualism that you felt when you played the game, that's No longer there. I remember that in PES5, I could notice a clear Difference between gifted players and average players.. I could dribble through...

Agreed.. although, that's what I meant to say. Konami should keep PES5 as the Core Gameplay -but- they should really improve on the Animations and Movements. PES08 failed in this aspect because Pace was so Important to the game -that- the game suddenly became one-dimensional and boring, it...

Yes, but from experience.. it seems that the Difference between the PS3 versions and the 360 versions -is- a Significant one, most people that enjoyed PES08 played the 360 version. Personally, I thought the PS3 version was Not worth playing. Can't judge on the 360 version as I've never played it.

On the 360.. that's all I wanted to know -as- you're not the only one who liked PES08, I don't think it's a Coincidence that Most people that did enjoyed PES08 -had- the 360 version. I'm pretty sure that if you play the PS3 version you'd agree with me. Anyways, No one says that PES08 is better...

PS3 version -or- 360 version?? They say that the 360 version was actually enjoyable at times so..

or Holland, yes.. I just didn't liked the game, I tried, but it was just too bad, not worth playing in my Opinion. Anyways, just wanted tom know if Huntelaar had his proper Face.

Yes I played it, just never used Ajax.. Realized that the Gameplay sucked -and- that the Edit Mode also sucked -and- that was enough for me.. I barely touched the game after the 1st weeks.

What about Huntelaar, did he had his Face in PES08??

I hope that's the case.. but it's been mentioned a few times that the Spanish La Liga will Not have all the teams. About Serie A being Unlicensed, this is the 1st time I heard such a thing. I'm pretty sure is BS. By the way, I wanted to ask, is there any way of Importing the Champions League...

This cannot be true, Inter Milan is the only Italian Team Licensed?? How can that be true?? The Gameplay could be even better than PES5 -and- still, Konami cannot afford to do this, no; EPL, Spanish La Liga, and Italian Serie A is very out of hand. I'm pretty sure I saw a few pics of Francesco...

I read it in "wikipedia", so it's not anything reliable.. But I can see that happening because Boca Juniors with Riquelme and Palacio -would- be more appealing to most fans, at least more popular than River Plate. And again, if they included River Plate in PES08 -then- I don't see why Boca...

Sagna looks good, from what I've seen in the pics.. Others I expect to see with their proper faces are Rodrigo Palacio and Martin Palermo from Boca Juniors. And as for David Silva, I barely played PES08 as I couldn't stand it.. but at least in PES6, he didn't had his Real face. Anyone knows...

That's a good comparison you have there, completely agree.. FIFA gets Old very fast -whereas- PES keeps growing on you.

I was just wondering about players that should have their Faces Updated in PES09 -and- just wanted to ask what players you guys think should have their real Faces. Some of them that didn't had their Faces -or- just didn't figured include: Sebastian Giovinco Diego Capel Matiaz Fernandez David...