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Not sure what on earth you're trying to say, but if you're suggesting Messi can't header, is not as good at dribbling as Ronaldo and is not fast without the ball, then I think you're veeery wrong.

Yawn, what a boring thread. Let me be a hypocrite though by joining the debate... Someone mentioned Messi wouldn't score 40+ goals in England. Well, neither did Ronaldo. And Messi didn't score 40 league goals in Spain either, so I'm not sure why that point was raised. And so what if Messi...

In this database, Mario Gomez has better attack and shooting than Klose. Although obviously Klose's heading stat helps him a lot which may be why his overall rating is better than Mario Gomez. (this is a reply to the guy on the first page complaining about Gomez and Klose)

It'll take years before thats in. We don't even have hand balls in the game. I swear I remember there being handballs in PES many years ago though, but seems like they've removed it.

Nice.

I assume you're talking about MLO right? I was thinking it would be great to A) let us have more than 1 team B) let us play in divisions with a maximum player rating/squad value That way you can have say a star team, an average team and a really challenging squad with mainly crappy players...

In a way I do hope Seabass makes way for someone else. I just really don't feel like a 'football guy' is talking into the mic when I see interviews with Seabass. Of course it may be that I don't understand any Japanese so can only follow by the subtitles, but still. He just doesn't convince me...

The solution for this is to have a slightly smaller box which would be the limit for normal catching. Anything between that inner box and the normal box would either be punched or headed out.

I'm sure warming up the players could be done with some sort of advanced control combo. Before the match starts (ie in the tactics selection) you'd select a group of players which you can send out of the dugout to warm up whenever you input the controls. It could even happen automatically in the...

Any update on this?

I found it in another thread. I'm lead to believe these are all the 2012 player stats (I think the pc gamers hacked the demo or whatever). Nevertheless, don't take my word for it as thats just what I read somewhere. The link is in Spanish but don't worry, the little application thingy is in...

If the managers were customizable, there would HAVE to be a behaviour setting as we obviously don't want all the managers reacting in a similar way. Perhaps even just an A, B and C type of scale with A being very relaxed/cool, B = average and C resulting in more chaotic behaviour during the game.

I believe some stats have been renamed though. Acceleration = explosive power free kick accuracy = ball placement technique = ball control Agility does seem to have been removed as well, although I'm not sure if that stat was really important anyway. It never improved in ML/BAL if I...

Regarding the team stats (during team selection process), its not like they debated on those numbers, its just some sort of average of the players in the team. I know its ridiculous to have AC Milan rated better than Man U in every department (attack, defence, speed, etc), but thats more a fault...

I noticed there isn't a shot technique stat for players in the demo, or at least I think there isn't. Can anyone confirm if this stat has been removed from the game or if its been moved elsewhere/renamed? I just downloaded a database for pes 2012 with all the player stats and the shot...

Release date in Holland is also 14th October. Does anyone know the release dates in other countries besides the ones mentioned in the other thread? (France, Germany, Spain, etc) Just wondering if Scandinavian/Eastern European countries also have to wait 2 weeks.

What an absolute F****** joke.

I've got to wait till tomorrow but I'm liking the sound of some of the notes here. Delighted to see the catch up flaw removed. One thing I really hope they removed is the panenka 'glitch' - basically in 2011 if you shoot a panenka penalty to either side of the goal the goalkeeper cannot save...

So has anyone found out yet why the release dates are so varied? Here in Holland we've got the UK release date which sucks balls of course. I mean it should just be a global or at least regional release date, I can't think of a reason why it should vary between European countries by 2 weeks...

Oh... my... god. Not only does that sound like dog poo, the video is horrible too. I can't tell if it was a guy or a girl doing that deep voice screaming, and then the main guy with blonde hair just looks uber gay. Seriously, who in their right mind thinks that kind of music is...