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So do option files like pes universe not give u the players of bayern and u have to create them urself?

With regards to the op, i totally agree with shooting. next gen pes shooting is horrific. is so lame and unrealistic it makes playing pes pointless. anyone who defends next gen pes shooting never played ps2 pes properly and needs to be shot. its terrible, just terrible

I duno about pes anymore. Its just so hard to accept the clunky roboticness of every next gen version. fifa may have its problems but my good it feels good when players like neymar start tearing teams up. fifa moves so well and that alone could beat pes. this is the first year i will not bw...

Now i believe pes plays more fluidly than fifa. No football game ive ever seen has looked and played better than in that france germany vid. nothing Pes has me sold this year. Fifa will provide some cheap entertainment with friends but, as has always been the case, pes is there for the...

Night time vids look average but daytime vid looked incredible.

Its a good idea but not massively original. They do really need to adress the fans at the ground on match day. Fans are such a big part of a football team and they need to replicate this in pes somehow

Same but i think Pes WILL see a drastic improvement

If you couldnt play fifa online im pretty sure you wouldn't be loving fifa so much. I asked myself the same thing and fifa is only an online game or human v human in the same room.

I will defo be buying from what ive seen. Roboticness seems to have disapeared

This year is pretty good for me and difficult. I avnt been on here much these days but i just wanted to say my piece. I will big up fifa but i would like to state i will be buying both and still think pes 2012 looks class. Pes 2012 looks good in those vids and believe me i love the series to...

Moves well imo. Smooth, quick and has the classic 'the second you press the button it reacts' which the ps2 era was famous for

I'm tempted to not consume much video footage of the game this year until purchase. I have only ever bought two game before that were as good to play as they were to watch on video; Bad Company 1 (2 was shit) and Operation Flashpoint Back in the day when I was 12-16 I would read reviews and...

Havnt posted on here for ages. First off Pes 2012 looks brilliant. No longer do the players resemble robots which is a weight off my shoulders. It is clear to me now that Pes 2011 has laid the base for future versions to build on. As im sure your all aware of Pes 6 was developed over several...

Why do you care so much. I currently atm have black ops, halo, friends and a social life. Who gives a fuck about pes v fifa. I used to but there's a life to be had outside of this place. One day pes will return and atm fifa is ok just get over it. There is more to life than one game.

If 'continuous play' is the only big thing next year then konami have completely lost me. They lost me this year infact. They need a new game engine cos nothing is making the game look better gameplay wise. They're overly complicating the game. Pes used to be good cos it was simple. You got...

I've played a few fifa lounge mode seasons with my mates and fifa this year is on the pitch better than pes. The one thing pes had over fifa was shooting but fifas shooting is insanely good now. The ball physics are amazingly good. We've had shots that have flown into the underside of the bar...

The worst I've ever had is 'thee' Ronaldo being out for 52 weeks in pes 4 but this is rediculous.

Pes is great against the computer and fifa is quality against humans and atm I play football games against humans so for me fifa is better. The goals may not fly in like they do in pes but the way u create them is very realistic. Next year for the first time I'm defo buying fifa, absolutey and...

Plenty of better games out there

True. The massive multi paragraph posts don't help. I have a life, I cba to read through 20 paragraphs about L2 passing. Who gives a shit ffs. I try and politely debate but some people go so needlessly technical I don't know why they bother. Maybe we could make this place like twitter where u...