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thank you. alf, i know i don't want to come across as a PES basher just because i was expecting more. i still love the PES series. just sad to discover that some features are missing from the game... features that have been prominent in the series for quite some time now. and you say that...

really? what the hell has happened? can someone fill me in on the ps2 version's problems? (i'm too lazy to read through the forums) has konami lost it, or has seabass been hittin the crackpipe or something... btw also another problem with the 360 online bit: no-one's fukkin there! yes it...

Alright i LOVE the pes series. loved em on ps1 and ps2, even loved it on a psp. Yet now i got PES6 on 360 (i thought PES in HD would be good), and i have to say that i'm absolutely gutted. Actually considering returning it... There's just so many things wrong in this game: The edit mode is...

Agreed with everything of the above. Haven't seen that ghastly stripy-pitch in PES5 yet though, but i'm sure it's in there if you say so. (urgh i shudder to think of it in PES4. i always skipped it) The long passing system has changed for the better, and i agree that it changes the gameplay...

I have to tell you, PES5 has been probably the first PES game in a long time that didn't make me go and buy it instantly. Instead i waited for it over a weekend and then decided to get it... Why, you ask? Well probably the screenshots and features seemed too similar to PES4, a game that i've...

You played PES5 on the xbox? How was the graphics? Is it a straight port of the PS2 version like PES4 was or is there something more fancy to it visually? (smoother framerate, sharper textures etc?)

Are we talking about PES5 here or the 4th one? Cos i'd like to know if they've actually used xbox's graphical advantage at all with PES5... or is it just a straight port again like PES4 was?

I like the idea, but isn't this forbidden somehow? I mean can the shop really show an edited pes4 running on their telly while they sell the default non-edited one? And wouldn't some customers possibly complain that they don't have the edits in, as this feature was the reason why they bought...

cheers mate, thanks a lot! i hope the lists haven't changed much... but this is great, real useful! :)

Thanks Zyg, although it'd be great to find a webpage somewhere that has all the teams, player names etc. Both national AND club teams. I saw one for WE7, but dunno if it's changed much to PES3...

Just wondering, now that the final retail version of PES3 is soon out (and some have it already) could we get a list of ALL the club player names and ALL the national team player names? Plus proper team names? I'm not down with all this patching really, (too 21st century i guess) so i'll be...

Great pics Danny! it'd be nice to see a pic of the england kit in the final version of PES3... both the default one and a possibly edited one. (i'd like to see how close you can have it down to the real deal) thanks mate!

Hehehe, that's class! I remember having some financial problems as well, i got threatened that "if you do not balance the club's budget, you will be sacked"... so i had to let go of an expensive player, (like david ginola for example) only to have him get a black cross just when everybody was...

Yeah, exactly. I've been hoping for that in a PES game ever since ISSPES on PS1! I thought "if they'll ever get the career mode with the teams like in SWOS i'll jump through the roof". It seems ridiculous that with modern technology etc it hasn't happened yet. BUT, the thing that i forget is...

I agree with SWOS completely! Almost wrote that in actually. SWOS menu music was perfect, very pleasant. Plus the game simply had the best career mode in any footie game to date...

Thanks for the replies people. As far as menu music goes, i think PES2 had it quite ok. PES1 as i said, had a HORRIBLE menu music, and the Goal-replay music in PES2 was shit as well. And what comes to trance, it can be done good of course, but PES2 replay tune was the most horrid example...

I was wondering what sort of music are we "treated" in PES3 this time round? Along with the commentary i've thought that the music in PES games has always been a bit... well, shite. Is there any Queen? How's the starting menu screen music? And how is that goal scoring tune? Please don't...

i'll go along the same lines as zygalski. first edit the england kit, and then go for the cup :)

sorry mate, i looked up (zyg's link is on this page) and on the second link they DO have the new england kits! i was just stuck with the first pics in the second link, they were old. thank god! so, it was my bad. but still the red under the arms? can you edit that away? (and btw don't...

i think zygalski posted a link with pics of the england shirt in them, and there you can see that they're not at all like the official england kits. the sleeves are supposed to be white, with a red line going along the arm. go and see pics of the real kits, and you'll see what i mean. i just...