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But I must say I like your guys' ideas. Very original and creative and agree with all of them - even controversial no. 15: would like to see it happen.

I think a new direction would be good: a football manager sim, where Konami team up with SI Games (Championship Manager makers). You could manage and enjoy the visuals of the most real football game on the planet. I think it would make money... And don't SI Games have the rights for many of the...

Another question: Can they be linked somehow via source code without the professionals help? As in a do-it-yourself footie management sim with a difference?

Has anybody else thought it would be worth Konamis while to team up with SI Games and make a Football management game with a 3D game engine. I mean that would be the best of both worlds and would blow EA's total club wotsit out of the water - where it belongs

You should try CMFrenzy.com: http://www.cmfrenzy.com/players/pafiledb.php?action=category&id=6 I stuck to their suggestion list and it works

It is far too long a list to work out, but if it helps I think Fernando Torres is Skin colour 1 and Face 146 - hope you are an Athlético fan. :o

I want to ask if anyone knows the names to all the preset faces in PES4. Cause I think I found Fernando Torres' old mug - @ Skin Colour 1 and Preset face 146