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Here's my review of PES5, I am going to report on my first three games (I've played more now): Note: All matches were played on five-star. Manchester United 1-2 Juventus As soon as I put the disc into my PS2, I could feel that this game was going to be different and I was right...

In other words, the 'evolution' of Pro Evolution Soccer is late.

What does the training actually do?

I wouldn't be surprised if they said that! :laugh:

Hmmm...I still think mastering the game through your own blood and sweat is better and more rewarding than getting tips out off a book. Having said that, I can't remember the last GTA I haven't cheated on, or the last MGS I didn't use a walkthrough to complete.

Well I haven't got PES5 yet so I'm going to talk about PES4. The game took me perhaps a few days to master, so when I unlocked six-star, it didn't make the game much harder. This same saga has happened with all the PES's to me. Problem is, when I go back to play a PES I haven't played for ages...

Their loss, your gain.

At this rate, we'll have to create a new forum called 'The PES opinions forum'.

What about the song on the main menu of the demo?

*Bash-It!!! slaps his forehead*

Well, thats what I think they say. Isn't it hammer on the nail?

You guys have hit the nail on the head for me.

Does anyone set the individual settings of players on PES? I found them quite useful in the past but I'm a bit concerned because the individual settings haven't been mentioned here before.

Why not try changing the formation?

Unfortunately, I need to get the game AND the max drive so you can leave me last.

Yeah, something like 'he passes the ball into open grass' would have been nice. :D

True but it's the game that has come the closest to perfect. I don't think FIFA even deserves to go on the scale.

I think you were expecting too much from Konami. And I'm not saying that with a smirk on my face.

Well all I'm going to say is be patient. A lot of us hate these 'mistakes' that Konami should have got rid off ages ago but we are being patient and waiting for this to work out. I think we should send these suggestions to Konami. Maybe they already know all these problems and are going to fix...

I could make Derby County.