Jake Small
Registered User
90% of the complaints about this game will be resolved once you learn the game better.
First of all the business about Henry not being able to outrun slow CB's... here I really am not sure what people are doing wrong. If Henry is well rested, and you're using R1 and *are not* all tangled up with a defender, just keep tapping forward and holding R1 and he will be able to outrun the majority of CB's. Check stamina levels, and check if you know how to full-sprint properly.
You just have to think ahead a little bit, which brings me to the next point:
This is one of the biggest improvements this year: the control is so much more up to the player. On first touches, you have to really pay attention to how you direct the ball, and if you poke it out to a defender after getting a pass, or let it hit you and lose your pace, consider that your mistake and try to do it right the next time.
Be aware that it makes a difference for first touches whether or not you're holding R1, R2, nothing, and which direction you're holding as you receive the ball. Go into training and learn specifically what each of these do... you have plenty of options on first touch, from shielding the ball, to redirecting it, and if you know how to use these properly you don't have to lose any pace (if it was a proper pass). Super cancel is another option here to rush your passes early to mix stuff up a bit more.
This is just another case where people will have to adapt themselves to the game and stop trying to make it the other way around. Sometimes now when I get frustrated or accidently over-hold square/x i pull fouls, but if you know how to tackle and you know how to cut off lanes (which I might add in this version, UNLIKE PES4, actually matters!) then you can shut down offenses without taking any fouls whatsoever.
I think this will disappear once you gain a bit better ball control. I've had matches where the midfield was swamped, but I've also had matches where I am able to drag the play to certain parts of the field and leave my strikers wide open for huge runs (this works especially well with netherlands' default formation).
Stick with it
Oh and as for dribbling past players; yes, your player is a bit heavier and slower in PES5, but you only have to remember that this is also true of your opponent. The key here is to force a commitment of some kind from your marker that you are able to predict, and you can win space. IE rush it up field and suddenly slow down, make him approach, turn around and show him your back: now you have passing options behind you, or, if you choose well you can poke it either up or down and run by. Another example might be fooling him into thinking you're slowing down, let him get in fairly close and R1+R2 tthe ball well past him in a certain direction (works well w/ pacey players). There really are a lot of options, but they require a bit of practice TBH.
First of all the business about Henry not being able to outrun slow CB's... here I really am not sure what people are doing wrong. If Henry is well rested, and you're using R1 and *are not* all tangled up with a defender, just keep tapping forward and holding R1 and he will be able to outrun the majority of CB's. Check stamina levels, and check if you know how to full-sprint properly.
elastic420 said:
You just have to think ahead a little bit, which brings me to the next point:
This is one of the biggest improvements this year: the control is so much more up to the player. On first touches, you have to really pay attention to how you direct the ball, and if you poke it out to a defender after getting a pass, or let it hit you and lose your pace, consider that your mistake and try to do it right the next time.
Be aware that it makes a difference for first touches whether or not you're holding R1, R2, nothing, and which direction you're holding as you receive the ball. Go into training and learn specifically what each of these do... you have plenty of options on first touch, from shielding the ball, to redirecting it, and if you know how to use these properly you don't have to lose any pace (if it was a proper pass). Super cancel is another option here to rush your passes early to mix stuff up a bit more.
This is just another case where people will have to adapt themselves to the game and stop trying to make it the other way around. Sometimes now when I get frustrated or accidently over-hold square/x i pull fouls, but if you know how to tackle and you know how to cut off lanes (which I might add in this version, UNLIKE PES4, actually matters!) then you can shut down offenses without taking any fouls whatsoever.
I think this will disappear once you gain a bit better ball control. I've had matches where the midfield was swamped, but I've also had matches where I am able to drag the play to certain parts of the field and leave my strikers wide open for huge runs (this works especially well with netherlands' default formation).
Stick with it
Oh and as for dribbling past players; yes, your player is a bit heavier and slower in PES5, but you only have to remember that this is also true of your opponent. The key here is to force a commitment of some kind from your marker that you are able to predict, and you can win space. IE rush it up field and suddenly slow down, make him approach, turn around and show him your back: now you have passing options behind you, or, if you choose well you can poke it either up or down and run by. Another example might be fooling him into thinking you're slowing down, let him get in fairly close and R1+R2 tthe ball well past him in a certain direction (works well w/ pacey players). There really are a lot of options, but they require a bit of practice TBH.
