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6 March patch question

nbn

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Webster defines

1: exposing to or involving danger
2: able or likely to inflict injury or harm

Silva the defending Spain Euro 2010 champ runs the attack, he can make plays better than Cecs.

Yaya toure the strongest cmf in punishing opponents, can track back and holds the ball.

In EPL, they're the best at playing the passing game. Passing creates chances, therefore they're the most dangerous. Man Utd plays this well but they dont have a true striker like Man City does with Aguero. Along with Balotelli and Dzeko.

Hart is having the best season yet, with Tevez coming back to the team to give it depth. Experience mid-fielders and wingers all over, Barry, Johnson and Milner.

EXAMPLE: coming back from being down 2 goals to tie Sporting in Europa.
 

abu97

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Yeah, Man U don't have a true striker like Rooney :facepalm:
EPL might be good at playing the passing game, but not any more. Probably the La Liga is. Man U's lack of passing the ball accurately resulted them being eliminated by Athletic Bilbao.
Johnson, experienced? Gotta be kiddin' me.
Barry and Milner are decent eventhough they're experienced.
Silva can't playmake better than Cesc. Cesc is having the time of his life in Spain after notching up assist after assist. Did you see when Barca trashed Leversuken 7-1? Fabregas well timed through ball setted up most of the play. Btw, Silva hasn't been playing as we all expected in the last month and since when did the euros take place in 2010?

All in all, there was no point of your post
 

Pokervriend

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Just a random question; How is it possible that clubs like Liverpool and Chelsea have so many medioker players when they have such HUGH budgets. There are so many quality players and yet Liverpool decides to pay tens of millions for Carroll??
 

abu97

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Because sometimes those players are ona purple patch of form. You look at Carroll for Newcastle before his transfer and he played excellent grabbing one every game. Same for Torres at Liverpool but then he moved to Chelsea and God know how lazy those two have become. If they are still on high wages, the world has gone crazy
 

marcosonic

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ucnX42hU4OU/TqUVEM4W1_I/AAAAAAAABYU/LoKHKAAIneo/s1600/united+city.jpg

thats all i have to say.
going back to poker comment, i dont think either team have mediocrer players, i think for the most part they are actually world class. i have a very high respect(i am manutd fan) for guys such as gerrard, charlie adams, mereiles, ramirez essien and so on,even drogba i think its a matter of these players sometimes coming to this clubs just for the money and not for the club and history. probably not gerrad.
it comes a lot down to the ppl who manages the club too, a lot of these teams now a days are loosing their identity so at the end of the days the players are just happy with coming to train ,play on the weekend and collecting the big juicy paychecks.
 

Pokervriend

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Because sometimes those players are ona purple patch of form. You look at Carroll for Newcastle before his transfer and he played excellent grabbing one every game. Same for Torres at Liverpool but then he moved to Chelsea and God know how lazy those two have become. If they are still on high wages, the world has gone crazy

I think Torres is a great player, I understood Chelsea paying a lot of money for him. He had a dribble, technique and scored a lot of goals. But Carroll? Honestly, I think he is such a limited player. All he is suitable for is a traditional kick and rush game. Also, clubs like ManU have so many former top players. Why do players like Scholes, Giggs and Ferdinand still play so much. If ManU comes to play against a club like Barca they get blown away with those oldies.
 

abu97

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Torres is a great player but he has gone so slow and never tracks back because he's gained so much weight. Have you seen him run? He runs like he weighs a few tonnes. He is skillful but he struggles to try hard enough to score - his off the ball runs aren't good and he creates a limited amount of chances for himself. He lacks confidence which is the main thing. And its not only Man U with former top players, its Chelsea too. Those players Giggs, Scholes and Ferdy play a lot because there still legends but lack pace and stamina but its not like they need it (apart from Giggs but his technique makes up for it). Anyway, if I were versing Barca, I'd honestly play Ferdinand instead of Jones as Ferdinand is much stronger, versed Barca before so he's familiar with their tactics, more reliable, less prone to mistakes and experienced. In the EPL, I'd play Jones more as he is young, fast and quick and generally more active
 

Pokervriend

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Yeah, Chelsea maybe even more. I agree that Torres plays horrible now, it is just that at the time I understood Chelsea paying so much money for him. What I don't understand is that Liverpool payed something like €40 million for him. They should have bought two decent defenders, and a creative midfielder and a good striker for that money.
 

nbn

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OK, I meant to say world cup but hey you got me there. But back to the point, the guy is obviously a Man Utd fan so he was offended by my praise in another team. Man City has to use Adam Johnson wisely, he is good when he is ready and you know thats true. I onced doubted his ability, but after watching him this season I think his progress through Mancini. As for Silva, he is an assist man, hes not going to get an assist every game and thats football. Unless you are Arsenal during the Henry era.

For my comment on EPL passing, I'm including clearance/long throws/haymakers. La Liga might have the short passes, but if you play real football like I do, you will know short passes is NEVER as effecient as the way EPL is made up.
 

Pokervriend

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OK, I meant to say world cup but hey you got me there. But back to the point, the guy is obviously a Man Utd fan so he was offended by my praise in another team. Man City has to use Adam Johnson wisely, he is good when he is ready and you know thats true. I onced doubted his ability, but after watching him this season I think his progress through Mancini. As for Silva, he is an assist man, hes not going to get an assist every game and thats football. Unless you are Arsenal during the Henry era.

For my comment on EPL passing, I'm including clearance/long throws/haymakers. La Liga might have the short passes, but if you play real football like I do, you will know short passes is NEVER as effecient as the way EPL is made up.

Really? I think the 'Barca style' is 10 times as effective as EPL playing style. I think ManU will agree after playing against Bilbao:innocent:
 

nbn

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To cut this short, let me put it this way. Making short passes and having two effective players on the ball allows the ball to transfer one to another without losing sight/instinct of what is going on around you. Yes, Barcelona plays this well because La Liga is a league that doesn't enhanced the ability to judge the game. An example of this is C. Ronaldo, he is took his skill to Man Utd then Real Madrid and not the other way around.

Stop trying to argue with me, I am the fucking best PES 2012 in the world. To prove this, I am in D1 rated 550 with an average of about 590 without trying much. Example, I open the door, pick up the phone, talk to people. My skill is so defined that I can play Ibra on the wing, Aguero as striker, Puyol as a beast on defense. I will stop here cuz this is not a tryout for a team and yes I've tried out for professional soccer and I am 28 years of age.
 

abu97

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I can see with what your saying but your not entirely right. A few years ago, the premier league was more effective tactically but now its collapsed. Arsenal don't play how they used to be few years back, Chelsea are very sloppy with the ball tactically and Man U just sit back and do counters now.
Did you watch the Chelsea match against Napoli in Stamford Bridge. That felt like watching Chelsea back in 2006 as they had awareness around the pitch, they played quick 1-2's all around the back and switched sides effectively. Barca do this every match and so do a lot of the higher-tier teams in the La Liga but in terms of variety, the premier league is more effective ONLY because of the lower teams in the la liga compared with the lowered teams in the EPL (Look at Swansea and Sociedad, obviously Swansea play better tactically).

Anyway I don't play football on the same level as you because I am half your age
 

sweetmusicman

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I read on the winning eleven blog that some did "Apply" the content and nothing from his editing was touched. I dunno if someone can apply the DLC and see what happens.. I really do want the whole update but I don't want to lose many info I've been editing.

Agree. I just downloaded it and did select Yes. None of my D2 teams have changed. Even my own created players(imaginary players) are still in my Man United line up.
 

abu97

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It won't be as easy as it sounds.


You're right, Barca will crush Milan.:rigbys:






























But Chelsea will crush Barca :terry:
 

Pokervriend

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I don't. They have an aged team and will be blown away by Barca imo:p. Against Miland they may have to play at their top, but Chelsea is weak. I think:

Milan gets blown away by Barca:eek:rly:










Chelsea gets Blown away by Barca:jongcrymore:
 

shaun7

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Let me tell you a secret about serie A.

Everything favors AC MILAN would be the short reply. But let me expand it a little bit.

As you may know, I support Juve, but I am not biased. When Juve plays bad, I admit it. When Juve didn't deserve something, I admit it too. But this year, MAN OH MAN, the amount of cheats I've seen against Juve is uncountable. Mention 1 big team that only had 1 PENALTY throughout 3/4's of the season?

Thing is that Juve had at LEAST 6 penalties that were not given. That's saying something right. And who remembers the Boateng DIVE? Yeah that's right. The one where AC MILAN were rewarded with a penalty for and is also the one where the diver, in this case Boateng, never got suspended.

Oh, this is only a small part of it. It's a shame. This was a very shameful year for serie A. Anyone who wants to admit what I said will be saying the truth and anyone who denies, would be only lying to himself.

So as for Milan vs Barca. Obviously Barca are much better than them. Milan are first in serie A because of pathetic decisions made by referees and the association. Milan aren't that good of a team. I am not saying that they're not good. They are. But Barca are much better. But in football everything can happen so who knows.

BTW, before you say anything; I hate Inter, but I don't hate Milan.
 
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