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After info from Germany..PES Victorious?

Amateur

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Its really true I guess....ppl are just greedy. Amateur, the game that u r hoping for might not even be available on the next gen consoles ( xbox 720 & ps4 ) with all those stats and special abilities u described.....soccer has WAAAAAAAAy to many players to give each player the smae amount of attention, maybe in a basketball game u can do that but not in soccer. And by the time we get new console itll take alot to put in all the details and learn to work with em.....( check out the early games of xbox 360 and ps3 and ull see what i mean ). I think for now we should just be glad we are hearing good news about PES 2009....

So basically, your saying that the PS3 cannot handle more than the PS2?? Because until now, Konami hasn't included a single New Stat -and- please, don't tell me a PS3 cannot handle more Stats and features -than- a PS2.

If that's the case, then what in hell is Next Gen supposed to be?? Is it a scam then?

Because I didn't exactly bought a Next Gen Console -just- so I could play PES6 with better Graphics.. that wasn't what I had in mind when I purchased a "Next Gen Console".
 

shaun7

Registered User
You would know how a ps3/360 can handle from GTA IV. The next gen is a pretty big step. I believe that the ps3/360 can handle much more stats.
 

proevofan88

Registered User
I know that it can handle more......but idc as long as i get a solid soccer title....im just tired of ppl acting like konami is reading this....they are not so dont act smart and give ur ideas just write about what you know will happen
 

Amateur

Registered User
I know that it can handle more......but idc as long as i get a solid soccer title....im just tired of ppl acting like konami is reading this....they are not so dont act smart and give ur ideas just write about what you know will happen

Honestly, I don't really care if Konami listen.. I'm just saying that if Konami cared at all -they- could introduce Loads of Next Gen Features into the game. That is IF they wanted, wich they obviously don't..

Konami will just keep releasing versions of PES6 with good Graphics year after year -and- Fans will just pretend that they are playing (and paying for) Next Gen Football Sims.

That is what I know will happen.. already got bored of thinking (and talking) about it. So I'll just keep posting just how many ways there are of actually making the game better.

By the way, on what FACTS do you say that PES09 is "looking great".. we really have nothing yet.
 

2-Face

Registered User
Its really true I guess....ppl are just greedy. Amateur, the game that u r hoping for might not even be available on the next gen consoles ( xbox 720 & ps4 ) with all those stats and special abilities u described.....soccer has WAAAAAAAAy to many players to give each player the smae amount of attention, maybe in a basketball game u can do that but not in soccer. And by the time we get new console itll take alot to put in all the details and learn to work with em.....( check out the early games of xbox 360 and ps3 and ull see what i mean ). I think for now we should just be glad we are hearing good news about PES 2009....

Trust me, what we see now day's on the PS3 is nothing compared to what we will see in the future. My brother is a game designer and he is one of thousands who is complaining about the difficulty of making games on the ps3. i can promise you this at the end of the run you will see the most beautiful games on the ps3, but it will take some time.

That said, WE can demand a next gen cause it's possible. SEABASS has to tell KONAMI we don't want to make a another pes for the ps2, then he has to release and focus on the ps3 and xbox360 first! then 1 or 2 months later he can release the on the wii , ds psp etc.

It's not that's not impossible. it's just they work for a company who is treating them like shit.
 

proevofan88

Registered User
Trust me, what we see now day's on the PS3 is nothing compared to what we will see in the future. My brother is a game designer and he is one of thousands who is complaining about the difficulty of making games on the ps3. i can promise you this at the end of the run you will see the most beautiful games on the ps3, but it will take some time.

That said, WE can demand a next gen cause it's possible. SEABASS has to tell KONAMI we don't want to make a another pes for the ps2, then he has to release and focus on the ps3 and xbox360 first! then 1 or 2 months later he can release the on the wii , ds psp etc.

It's not that's not impossible. it's just they work for a company who is treating them like shit.

Its possible no doubt i mean look at Gears of War 2 and Metal gear solid 4 unreal graphics......But those games have so much time to be made whereas a PES has to come out every year.......so do you really think in a span of about 9 months they can make amazing graphics, revolutionary gameplay? What they can do is add features on a yearly basis ( which they also have not been doing ) and then maybe 2 or 3 years from now will have a game that we would consider revolutionary if it came out today but by then it will be expected.....its how it is with sports really......FIGHT NIGHT 3 became revolutionary for boxing but it was in the makings for almost 3 years......do you wanna wait on PES 2009 3 years? itll be PES 2012
 

lfcboy

Registered User
Don't understand the talk about graphics. The game could have the same graphics as PES 6 graphics and I'd still play it as long as the gameplay is smooth.

By the way, the graphics for PES 2009 look pretty brilliant to me. Better than Fifa for sure.
 

Sho

Marco
I'm confuzzled here, how can PES2009 be victorious after hearing/seeing things from a German Games Magezine.

Its too early to say the game is victorious for my liking.
 

Amateur

Registered User
Its possible no doubt i mean look at Gears of War 2 and Metal gear solid 4 unreal graphics......But those games have so much time to be made whereas a PES has to come out every year.......so do you really think in a span of about 9 months they can make amazing graphics, revolutionary gameplay? What they can do is add features on a yearly basis ( which they also have not been doing ) and then maybe 2 or 3 years from now will have a game that we would consider revolutionary if it came out today but by then it will be expected.....its how it is with sports really......FIGHT NIGHT 3 became revolutionary for boxing but it was in the makings for almost 3 years......do you wanna wait on PES 2009 3 years? itll be PES 2012

I would rather wait 3 years for a truly Revolutionary Football Sim -instead- of playing the same shit year after year.
 

proevofan88

Registered User
I would rather wait 3 years for a truly Revolutionary Football Sim -instead- of playing the same shit year after year.



well then wait three years dont buy the next 3 PES games?.....me and the other millions of ppl will but since ur like that cool kid who thinks he deserves so much better you go ahead and wait.....will write about our experience with the game on the forum and then u can bash it for us bytelling us how the stats suck and how the game sucks
 

proevofan88

Registered User
Don't understand the talk about graphics. The game could have the same graphics as PES 6 graphics and I'd still play it as long as the gameplay is smooth.

By the way, the graphics for PES 2009 look pretty brilliant to me. Better than Fifa for sure.

i COMPLETELEY agree with you.....but others here always want MORE even tho PES is the best soccer title on the planet....they still want BETTER
 

Amateur

Registered User
well then wait three years dont buy the next 3 PES games?.....me and the other millions of ppl will but since ur like that cool kid who thinks he deserves so much better you go ahead and wait.....will write about our experience with the game on the forum and then u can bash it for us bytelling us how the stats suck and how the game sucks

No, I think I will just go ahead and buy PES09.. just to have an enjoyable Football Sim with good Graphics. But after PES09 -you- can bet your ass that I won't be wasting my money on PES for 2 or 3 years.

Thats said, you are really misinterpreting me -because- I never said that PES6 sucked. I did said that PES08 was a complete waste of Time and Money.

But I never said the Old Versions sucked, I only said the obvious; the old versions (PES4, PES5, PES6) have LOADS of room for improvements -and- the 1st improvements should come with more Stats.
 

proevofan88

Registered User
No, I think I will just go ahead and buy PES09.. just to have an enjoyable Football Sim with good Graphics. But after PES09 -you- can bet your ass that I won't be wasting my money on PES for 2 or 3 years.


you always say PES 6 is better why wait for PES 2009 just go ahead and play PES 6.....and since PES 2009 isnt REVOLUTIONARY why buy it? your standards are so damn high idk if even the best soccer title is good enough for you
 

Amateur

Registered User
you always say PES 6 is better why wait for PES 2009 just go ahead and play PES 6.....and since PES 2009 isnt REVOLUTIONARY why buy it? your standards are so damn high idk if even the best soccer title is good enough for you

Why buy it?? Because it LOOKS twice as good as PES6, I'd rather play PES6 in good graphics. And by the way, I still play PES6 from time to time -just- don't enjoy it as much as I used to.
 

proevofan88

Registered User
Why buy it?? Because it LOOKS twice as good as PES6, I'd rather play PES6 in good graphics. And by the way, I still play PES6 from time to time -just- don't enjoy it as much as I used to.

how do you know that PES 2009 is better? u playe it or some?
 

Amateur

Registered User
how do you know that PES 2009 is better? u playe it or some?

I don't know it.. But I expect a game that is just as good. I'm not expecting anything better, I'm just expecting PES6 with good Graphics -and- I rather play PES6 in good Graphics.

And also, PES09 could be anything.. it can be very different to PES6, or it could be very different to PES08. But if PES09 is not as good as PES6 -then- that's plain unacceptable. It is as simple as that, Konami has been working on that game for 2 YEARS now, it should be a good game.
 
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