MysteryMan
Registered User
There are tons of small things that could be added to improve PES, things like realistic ML transfers, Better Animations , More options , More licenses, Cursor changing, Players running for loose balls when theres no way of getting to them or if they will get intercepted 100% etc...
But the priority is AI, the AI is the biggest problem and if it would be fixed PES 2012 would be the best soccer game ever made, no matter the other add ons.
Now bellow I will list the biggest problems in AI and what they mean and how they should be fixed.
The Difficulty
This is the biggest issue in PES, and most people would agree that PES simply isn't challenging enough.
Some people would say well add a higher difficulty but thats not the solution, first we need to understand why the game is not challenging.
Its not because the AI players would not be good enough, infact on top player the AI players are superhuman with crazy stats, but the problem is they are simply DUMB.
So in order to fix the gameplay difficulty the AI must become smart, smart like in real soccer.
First of all the pressure from the AI is ridicilous, they pressure you all the time all over the field like maniacs, that does NOT happen in real life, and because of that ALOT of space opens up for you to exploit because the AI of course does not pressure other players , no they pressure only the player that has the ball and as a result you always have 2 or 3 open players to pass the ball too. This means if you want you could basically have 70% possession against Barca and you could be pretty much any team.
The solution is simple, I want the AI to pressure as in real life, pressure players without the ball aswell as player with the ball, close down passing lanes etc etc... Of course that goes for teams like Barca, because they are the best at it, weak teams like Real Sociedad simply can't do that because their players are too slow and don't even know how to pressure like that, I want that to be in PES aswell.
Now you might say well then the strong teams like Barca will easily get alot of possession if you have a "weak/decent" team but really weak teams will get destroyed.
Well no, I just want it to be like real life, if im Barca and play against a weak team in spain I want 70-75% posession, now this happens in PES but the problem is like I said all players will pressure like crazy and open tons of space for you to exploit.
The solution for weak teams is that most play like real life, that means stay off and don't pressure and play very deep , park the bus basically against stronger teams.
Some good teams like Sevilla should also have strong counterattacks, this also is not possible in PES because of 2 things.
1- teammates in PES simply don't attack like they should, if your on a counter they are supposed to sprint all over the field, they dont.
2- speed doesn't matter as much as it should, we all know this one, defenders can outpace attackers easily even if they run for loose balls
I also want teams like Barca to play posession football, now I realize if I play 15min halfs thats impossible if you compare it to a real match that takes 45 mins per half, but in PES barca just attacks all the time, they don't pass the ball around like in real life , they don't play you off the park, they play more like real madrid or germany than barca.
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So the short version, I want :
- AI to be smarter, instead of being superhuman on top player, and pressure properly not just run after the player with the ball like crazy, you can basically hold the ball all match long like this
- More inviduality, players need to play similar to how they do, I look at Messi when hes played by AI on Top Player and he plays nothing like Messi, they really need to fix this, the player cards simply don't do enough for inviduality at all, everyone plays COMPLETELY different than they should and not only that they also are stupid, I mean running directly towards an opponent 90% of the times and losing the ball, come on...
- Strong teams can outplay you, weak ones can't but they counter that by defending, basically :
- Teams like Barca to play you off the park, get 60-70% posession against you if your a weak team, not the other way around.
- weak teams ( most of them, all don't even in RL ) to park the bus against you if your a strong team, and play very deep and not pressure u all over and open up tons of space.
- Counterattacks to be better, atm its almost impossible to do a proper counterattack like it should be in real life, even if u have 99/99 Top speed and Acc players infront.
- More team styles of play and more emphasis on them, like said before Barca to really play like barca, teams with counterattacks to really play like that, in PES 2011 theres a small difference but nowhere near enough to be called an "unique" style
- Speed merchant ruins PES alot ,because it gives someone a superhuman ability of turning directions, the only player that somehow turns like that is Messi, but still even if u give the card only to him its overpowered because PES made others underpowered in that sense, serously even if u give someone 99 agility they will turn to the sideways very slowly, like a snail, this needs to be addressed because it means u lose the ball 90% of the time if u make a turn like that instead of using a feint, in real life that doesnt happen, look how fluid some players change directions , like Iniesta.
The defenders need to be smarter and quicker but the attackers also need to move more fluidly instead of moving like snails ( while when u use tricks its overpowered and u get past someone 100% of the time if only u do it in the right moment ).
When KONAMI fixes this which is the ultimate problem of PES 2011 then they can start thinking about other improvements, then PES will start looking like a real simulation and an awesome game.
But the priority is AI, the AI is the biggest problem and if it would be fixed PES 2012 would be the best soccer game ever made, no matter the other add ons.
Now bellow I will list the biggest problems in AI and what they mean and how they should be fixed.
The Difficulty
This is the biggest issue in PES, and most people would agree that PES simply isn't challenging enough.
Some people would say well add a higher difficulty but thats not the solution, first we need to understand why the game is not challenging.
Its not because the AI players would not be good enough, infact on top player the AI players are superhuman with crazy stats, but the problem is they are simply DUMB.
So in order to fix the gameplay difficulty the AI must become smart, smart like in real soccer.
First of all the pressure from the AI is ridicilous, they pressure you all the time all over the field like maniacs, that does NOT happen in real life, and because of that ALOT of space opens up for you to exploit because the AI of course does not pressure other players , no they pressure only the player that has the ball and as a result you always have 2 or 3 open players to pass the ball too. This means if you want you could basically have 70% possession against Barca and you could be pretty much any team.
The solution is simple, I want the AI to pressure as in real life, pressure players without the ball aswell as player with the ball, close down passing lanes etc etc... Of course that goes for teams like Barca, because they are the best at it, weak teams like Real Sociedad simply can't do that because their players are too slow and don't even know how to pressure like that, I want that to be in PES aswell.
Now you might say well then the strong teams like Barca will easily get alot of possession if you have a "weak/decent" team but really weak teams will get destroyed.
Well no, I just want it to be like real life, if im Barca and play against a weak team in spain I want 70-75% posession, now this happens in PES but the problem is like I said all players will pressure like crazy and open tons of space for you to exploit.
The solution for weak teams is that most play like real life, that means stay off and don't pressure and play very deep , park the bus basically against stronger teams.
Some good teams like Sevilla should also have strong counterattacks, this also is not possible in PES because of 2 things.
1- teammates in PES simply don't attack like they should, if your on a counter they are supposed to sprint all over the field, they dont.
2- speed doesn't matter as much as it should, we all know this one, defenders can outpace attackers easily even if they run for loose balls
I also want teams like Barca to play posession football, now I realize if I play 15min halfs thats impossible if you compare it to a real match that takes 45 mins per half, but in PES barca just attacks all the time, they don't pass the ball around like in real life , they don't play you off the park, they play more like real madrid or germany than barca.
.............................................
So the short version, I want :
- AI to be smarter, instead of being superhuman on top player, and pressure properly not just run after the player with the ball like crazy, you can basically hold the ball all match long like this
- More inviduality, players need to play similar to how they do, I look at Messi when hes played by AI on Top Player and he plays nothing like Messi, they really need to fix this, the player cards simply don't do enough for inviduality at all, everyone plays COMPLETELY different than they should and not only that they also are stupid, I mean running directly towards an opponent 90% of the times and losing the ball, come on...
- Strong teams can outplay you, weak ones can't but they counter that by defending, basically :
- Teams like Barca to play you off the park, get 60-70% posession against you if your a weak team, not the other way around.
- weak teams ( most of them, all don't even in RL ) to park the bus against you if your a strong team, and play very deep and not pressure u all over and open up tons of space.
- Counterattacks to be better, atm its almost impossible to do a proper counterattack like it should be in real life, even if u have 99/99 Top speed and Acc players infront.
- More team styles of play and more emphasis on them, like said before Barca to really play like barca, teams with counterattacks to really play like that, in PES 2011 theres a small difference but nowhere near enough to be called an "unique" style
- Speed merchant ruins PES alot ,because it gives someone a superhuman ability of turning directions, the only player that somehow turns like that is Messi, but still even if u give the card only to him its overpowered because PES made others underpowered in that sense, serously even if u give someone 99 agility they will turn to the sideways very slowly, like a snail, this needs to be addressed because it means u lose the ball 90% of the time if u make a turn like that instead of using a feint, in real life that doesnt happen, look how fluid some players change directions , like Iniesta.
The defenders need to be smarter and quicker but the attackers also need to move more fluidly instead of moving like snails ( while when u use tricks its overpowered and u get past someone 100% of the time if only u do it in the right moment ).
When KONAMI fixes this which is the ultimate problem of PES 2011 then they can start thinking about other improvements, then PES will start looking like a real simulation and an awesome game.
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