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[douglas93]

I play on professional, does anyone else find the AI opposition a bit 'limited'? I am playing the league as Aston Villa and in 9 games have only let in 2 goals (one of which was an own goal). Im not bigging myself up, that would be sad, my problem is in the last third so most of my games are ending up 1 nil to me. Seems like the AI doesnt create many chances during a game at all and gives the ball away a lot.

In previous versions the AI would occasionally dispense a killer long ball which would always result in a goal, seems to me thats gone which probably isnt a bad thing.

 

[Makavelian]

I play on professional, does anyone else find the AI opposition a bit 'limited'? I am playing the league as Aston Villa and in 9 games have only let in 2 goals (one of which was an own goal). Im not bigging myself up, that would be sad, my problem is in the last third so most of my games are ending up 1 nil to me. Seems like the AI doesnt create many chances during a game at all and gives the ball away a lot.

In previous versions the AI would occasionally dispense a killer long ball which would always result in a goal, seems to me thats gone which probably isnt a bad thing.

top player maybe

 

[douglas93]

If your referring to me, christ no, only win about 1 in 3 games online. But I am finding if you use the square button (PS3) to close down the AI just gives the ball away in the end and rarely do the opposition get near your box?

 

[Ozzie]

I play on professional, does anyone else find the AI opposition a bit 'limited'? I am playing the league as Aston Villa and in 9 games have only let in 2 goals (one of which was an own goal). Im not bigging myself up, that would be sad, my problem is in the last third so most of my games are ending up 1 nil to me. Seems like the AI doesnt create many chances during a game at all and gives the ball away a lot.

In previous versions the AI would occasionally dispense a killer long ball which would always result in a goal, seems to me thats gone which probably isnt a bad thing.

Online or playing against mates - BRILLIANT!!!!!
Offiline playing against the AI - BORING!!!!!

Playing against the AI in the past has always been a challenge, especially on the 2 hardest levels. But Konami have completely stuffed up the AI this time. There is no challenge to this game in offline mode, the computer just sits back and passes the ball around all day long, and never bothers to attack, even on the hardest level (top player) How anybody can play against the computer and find this game satisfying/interesting is beyond me???

It is like a training drill. Attackers (me) v defenders (AI)..... ridiculous. Looks like there will not be any decent football game to play for the next 12 months (yes, FIFA is even worse).

 

[douglas93]

"the computer just sits back and passes the ball around all day long, and never bothers to attack, even on the hardest level (top player)"

Well done - Thats exactly it! it just passes around the back 4 keeping possession but going nowhere with it.

I imagine ml is harder but only cos your players are crap to begin with.

 

[muzza798]

I find they may not score alot but in alot of games they go ultra defensive and are really hard to brake down which is just as hard as if they went ultra offensive.

 

[CAN7ONA]

Online or playing against mates - BRILLIANT!!!!!
Offiline playing against the AI - BORING!!!!!

Playing against the AI in the past has always been a challenge, especially on the 2 hardest levels. But Konami have completely stuffed up the AI this time. There is no challenge to this game in offline mode, the computer just sits back and passes the ball around all day long, and never bothers to attack, even on the hardest level (top player) How anybody can play against the computer and find this game satisfying/interesting is beyond me???

It is like a training drill. Attackers (me) v defenders (AI)..... ridiculous. Looks like there will not be any decent football game to play for the next 12 months (yes, FIFA is even worse).

My thoughts exactly. In the Konami ideas thread, I touched on this and to be honest I'm not surprised that the COM plays tedious football again. I think I have conceded an average 1 goal every three games and defending is not my strongest points. Atleast make me sit up and concentrate when the AI attacks but instead I find myself drifting off when they have the ball.

Big let down in this department. A little variety would have enhanced the gameplay to whole new level.

I'm curious to know how they played on superstar difficulty.

 

[muzza798]

What teams are you lot using? Maybe if your a 4.5* team or better thats why they arent getting goals.

 

[douglas93]

Thanks for the replies, kind of proves my point - I played the AI on professional last night and it managed 1 shot in 90 minutes. Admittedly it was only Villa v burnley (but Liverpool werent much better). I am only an average player (and thats being kind) I imagine good players just waltz through the AI.

 

[Rama78]

someone posted this on the pesfan forum

This could be a FIX for dumb AI

My biggest gripe with the game is AI on offense - no long shots, always using wings, rarely something exciting.


Well, I changed the team in Auto settings to ALWAYS attack (its 3-4th down or something) and now AI attacks a lot more, and does sit there on d playing with itself


try it lemme know if you notice a difference

 

[jayjay1306]

Might give it a go Rama. Maybe suggest this to one of the OF Developers. I went a whole season in ML and conceded 3 goals. And yes - Top Player (I'd feel like a cheat on any other level).

 

[muzza798]

Thats a really good idea. If ive started my ML already though will the tactics still change?

 

[johannlo]

someone posted this on the pesfan forum

This could be a FIX for dumb AI

My biggest gripe with the game is AI on offense - no long shots, always using wings, rarely something exciting.


Well, I changed the team in Auto settings to ALWAYS attack (its 3-4th down or something) and now AI attacks a lot more, and does sit there on d playing with itself


try it lemme know if you notice a difference

Can you clarify where the settings are, and even more importantly, does anyone know the ansawer to above question re: master league (ie if you've already started ML does this carry through)?

I'm hoping you don't mean go through EVERY team and individually change their settings

 

[BloodyYank]

Can you clarify where the settings are, and even more importantly, does anyone know the ansawer to above question re: master league (ie if you've already started ML does this carry through)?

I'm hoping you don't mean go through EVERY team and individually change their settings

Unfortunately, that's exactly what he means. However, I can assure you that this works. The AI becomes much more challenging, and will be more aggressive in its attack.

You have to go into edit mode and edit each team individually. It takes a little while, but once it's done, it's done, and it's definitely worth it.

When you go to edit mode, pick "edit team" and then go to each team's game plan and select "auto assists". Then go town to "attack" and set the level to 4. Repeat this for each and every team. It doesn't take as long as you might think.

I'm not positive, but I don't think you have to restart your ML. I think it will carry over.

 

[Tech_Skill]

On pes, its gotta be top player.

 

[Blade1889]

I've noticed the AI are quite happy to sit back while the game is 0-0 but they do seem to change when they're behind.

It's happened twice to me now in Champs Lg knockout stage:

I've won the first leg 2 or 3-0 but have conceded 3 or 4 goals in the 2nd leg!!

Yesterday I beat Liverpool 3-0 at Anfield in the 1st leg of the quarter finals. I thought the tie was over but they started the 2nd leg like a team possessed!! I ended up going 4-0 down and only 2 late goals from Van Nistelroy and Benzema saw me through 5-4 on agg!

 

[jonny5985]

Anybody noticed that on professional level, if you play a ball for your player to run on to, even if you over hit it and the AI defender can get there, for some reason the AI will just stop and let you get to the ball. It's bizarre. It's almost as bad as being able to run through players on PES09.

 

[RN50]

sounds promising BloodyYank, might have to give it a try, il probalby only give it to team that actually attack in real life ie barca, Inter, United ect but leave out the likes of Bolton, Blackburn ect who normally defend more.

 

[89cruefan]

i find this in most games that the ai will just sit back and pass to play time off. i have gone 3-0 up and then the ai just gives in and well i can get more past them. even in the competitive games
i have also noticed if the ai open the scoring and make it 1-0. then if i equalise and then score again the ai just seem to give up and be prepared to take the loss or draw

 

[BloodyYank]

sounds promising BloodyYank, might have to give it a try, il probalby only give it to team that actually attack in real life ie barca, Inter, United ect but leave out the likes of Bolton, Blackburn ect who normally defend more.

I would recommend doing it with all the teams. The change isn't that drastic, and teams that tend to play defensively will still do so. Like, you won't suddenly find Bolton bombing up the wing every time they get the ball, you'll just notice that they take advantage of openings more frequently. On the other hand, when you're playing against United, you'll know it.

If you're not ready to go through the whole tedious process, I'd say just edit a few different teams, and then play a handful of matches to see if you notice a difference.

Also, what length matches are you playing? I really think the game opens up a lot more when you play longer matches. I play minimum 20 minutes.