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Are games getting worse??

Singey

Registered User
Yeah I thought Max Payne was cancelled ages ago, if there is a new one i'll shit myself. Apparently there is a film being released, 'Payne & Redemption'

:doh:
 

Eric Clyde

Registered User
Unfortunately I think the best games have came and went. Everyone may talk about Metal Gear Solid 4, Grand Theft Auto IV, Final Fantasy XIII, Resident Evil 5 or the next Halo game but in my opinion, these games are more than likely going to be good eye pleasing games but once you start playing you find out the weaknesses.

So far, I have only found one game to be truly great in the last few years and that was Shadow of the Colossus. The other supposedly great games like Halo 3, God of War, Gears of War and so far Assassin's Creed only seem "good" to me but no way near great/Best games ever.

In my opinion, we will hardly ever find anything innovative nowadays because everyone except me is all about FPS. You can hardly do anything innovative with that genre now but developers will keep unleashing them as long as they sell.

Critically acclaimed games don't seem to sell very well like the platformer Psychonauts. Often considered a great of recent years but have only sold at least 400,000 copies since it's release a few years ago. Other great games that haven't sold very well also include games like Ico, Shadow of the Colossus and Okami.
 

PacMan

Registered User
I don't think they are "worse" now, just very different, and with a different focus.

Most games now are all about fast pace and excitement. I've always been a fan of point and click adventures, but the genre is dead now, as most people would find them boring. After years of not playing one, I find that going back to old adventures is hard for me, and can only enjoy games like the new Sam&Max episodic adventures, which are extremely easy if you compare them to, say, the Kyrandia series (which I played and beat), or even the old Sam&Max. Another symptom of these times is the total absence of great flight simulations. You know, the ones that require you to sit for 20 minutes while your plane gets to the target. I really like those, too. The best you can get in that department today I think is Silent Hunter, a WW2 sub sim.

I've been looking for a great flight sim based on WW2. The idea of having to spend hours dogfighting with a machine gun against dodgy Germans, cocky Americans or kamikaze Japanese calls to me. I really enjoyed Microprose 1942 when it was released, but there doesn't seem to be a good WW2 flight sim nowadays. If anyone knows of one, can you recommend it to me?

I'm not saying that Crysis, Half Life 2, Far Cry and all those games are bad; on the contrary, they are excellent, but it doesn't require much of a brain to get through them. I liked games that made you think... a lot. Like when I got stuck in Indiana Jones Atlantis or Monkey Island 2 for one whole month. Games which push you in that direction today will never be bestsellers. You have the first two Thief games, the Gothic series, Planescape: Torment, and some other few examples, but all of them have at least a bit of action, lest you feel the urge to go out and kill someone.
 

o0oGedo0o

"ThE liTtlE PhAraOh"
Unfortunately I think the best games have came and went. Everyone may talk about Metal Gear Solid 4, Grand Theft Auto IV, Final Fantasy XIII, Resident Evil 5 or the next Halo game but in my opinion, these games are more than likely going to be good eye pleasing games but once you start playing you find out the weaknesses.

So far, I have only found one game to be truly great in the last few years and that was Shadow of the Colossus. The other supposedly great games like Halo 3, God of War, Gears of War and so far Assassin's Creed only seem "good" to me but no way near great/Best games ever.

In my opinion, we will hardly ever find anything innovative nowadays because everyone except me is all about FPS. You can hardly do anything innovative with that genre now but developers will keep unleashing them as long as they sell.

Critically acclaimed games don't seem to sell very well like the platformer Psychonauts. Often considered a great of recent years but have only sold at least 400,000 copies since it's release a few years ago. Other great games that haven't sold very well also include games like Ico, Shadow of the Colossus and Okami.

Exactly what i was thinking, with a little change about the games mentioned.
On another note: just found out that Wan posted in a month the same amount i posted in 2 years.
 

Usul

Registered User
There Can Be Only Wan.

:jester:

That thing about Max Payne 3, was just a little rumour i wanted to spark.

I had no idea they had cancelled it.

A sad day for PC gaming, if there ever was one... :(
I don't think they are "worse" now, just very different, and with a different focus.

Most games now are all about fast pace and excitement. I've always been a fan of point and click adventures, but the genre is dead now, as most people would find them boring. After years of not playing one, I find that going back to old adventures is hard for me, and can only enjoy games like the new Sam&Max episodic adventures, which are extremely easy if you compare them to, say, the Kyrandia series (which I played and beat), or even the old Sam&Max.

I'm not saying that Crysis, Half Life 2, Far Cry and all those games are bad; on the contrary, they are excellent, but it doesn't require much of a brain to get through them. I liked games that made you think... a lot. Like when I got stuck in Indiana Jones Atlantis or Monkey Island 2 for one whole month. Games which push you in that direction today will never be bestsellers. You have the first two Thief games, the Gothic series, Planescape: Torment, and some other few examples, but all of them have at least a bit of action, lest you feel the urge to go out and kill someone.
Long gone are the days of the graphic adventure.

Leisure Suit Larry, Monkey Island, the Quest games, Another Wolrd and Flash Back, are no more... :no:

We have entered The Age of 'Brainless' Action.
 

Jesus

Banned
I think I played Flash Back. A very old game isn't it? I remember my cousin gave me a floppy which had the game.
 

o0oGedo0o

"ThE liTtlE PhAraOh"
i remember having 20 games in a floppy disk, after a while games got bigger and i had to use 7 disks for mortal kombat, copying it using dos. Good times.
 

Singey

Registered User
i remember having 20 games in a floppy disk, after a while games got bigger and i had to use 7 disks for mortal kombat, copying it using dos. Good times.

I used to have a cd with tonnes and tonnes of Windows 95 games, it really was endless fun. One of my fav's was Microman. man, man, man

 

g33k

Registered User
I used to have a cd with tonnes and tonnes of Windows 95 games, it really was endless fun. One of my fav's was Microman. man, man, man


Dude, that game fucking rocked! I'm amazed anyone else played it. Thanks for the memories.

Where can I get it?
 

Cali

Sin City
I didn't like Assassin's Creed afterall, it got annoying when guards just attacked you for no reason. Kane and Lynch: Dead Men looks quality and I will be buying that. SmackDown's only downfall is it's CAW attribute ruling. You can't edit your CAW's attributes unless you start a new 24/7 GM mode. That, my friend - sucks.

Now, Call of Duty 4 was absoloutely immense, but it had a real short story. Every game is going to have flaws. You just have to learn to deal with it. But to answer the question I wouldn't say that games are getting worse at all. Just wait for GTA IV to come out.
 

o0oGedo0o

"ThE liTtlE PhAraOh"
I'm not a big GTA fan, never liked it and i don't know why people liked it so much. Also rockstar made that GTA look a like game that was called "bully", played it for some time then threw it away. I'm not into these kind of games. Free roaming is fun, but i always felt the game so arcady by the way you can fight the whole town with a machine gun, take down choppers or whatever.

Also, Kane and lynch sounded like a good game, but it was given a real bad review by gamespot (good ps3 games are being thrashed recently by gamespot reviewers), but i have a bad feeling about this one.
 

Usul

Registered User
Now, Call of Duty 4 was absoloutely immense, but it had a real short story..
I wouldn't worry too much about that, as the beauty of this game is in it's multiplayer mode.
Also, Kane and lynch sounded like a good game, but it was given a real bad review by gamespot (good ps3 games are being thrashed recently by gamespot reviewers), but i have a bad feeling about this one.
I wouldn't put too much faith in reviewers. They can always be paid money by rival companies to give bad reviews on other games.

At the end of the day, it's just their opinion.
 

Singey

Registered User
I'm not a big GTA fan, never liked it and i don't know why people liked it so much. Also rockstar made that GTA look a like game that was called "bully", played it for some time then threw it away. I'm not into these kind of games. Free roaming is fun, but i always felt the game so arcady by the way you can fight the whole town with a machine gun, take down choppers or whatever

Well the new GTA is supposed to be much more realistic, for yourself and any other people who have the same views as you I reckon it will be worth a try, for example crazy rampages will be met with equal force from the police and other forces. Even if you pull out a weapon in the middle of the street people will scream and scatter and you will attract police attention.

Its up to you though. I know a few people who dont really like GTA either.
 

o0oGedo0o

"ThE liTtlE PhAraOh"
I would love it if GTA turned more realistic. I'm normally not drawn into these games but I am really tempted to try Ratchet & clank. It's been a while since I played a game like that. I used to love these type of games when i was a kid.
 

Eric Clyde

Registered User
I wouldn't worry too much about that, as the beauty of this game is in it's multiplayer mode.

This is what really is pissing me off most about games. I am a singleplayer guy but it seems that most developers are neglecting the singleplayer experience for multiplayer. I think there have been quite a few games this year that can supposedly be easily beaten within 10 hours. Those 10 or less hours may be fun but I would love a singleplayer experience to last much longer which is why I usually enjoy RPG's (Especially Final Fantasy) as those games I usually average +80 hours and never get tired of it.
 

spoonzwba

Registered User
Games have changed alot and the makers seem to focus more on multiplayer. I enjoy multiplayer but think singleplayer games have went downhill alot recently
 

Usul

Registered User
This is what really is pissing me off most about games. I am a singleplayer guy but it seems that most developers are neglecting the singleplayer experience for multiplayer. I think there have been quite a few games this year that can supposedly be easily beaten within 10 hours. Those 10 or less hours may be fun but I would love a singleplayer experience to last much longer which is why I usually enjoy RPG's (Especially Final Fantasy) as those games I usually average +80 hours and never get tired of it.
I guess it's because online gaming is a bigger market now. People enjoy playing against human opponents more, so the developers now usually don't spend as much time creating stories for their games, specially for FPSs. They seem to make them just so people can 'practice' a little before playing against human opponents. This will change as soon as game AI improves considerably. In fact, it may even overtake it the day the AI becomes sharper than a human. :no:
 
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