Collections of the next big thing
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Barcelona1984
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Is he a bald guy who's name starts with B?
Barcelona1984
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Do these star youth players of yours have a long-lasting peak? Mine seems to have a relatively short (a year or two, but very high) peak.
rui17fcp
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I cant answer you cuz i'm only at second season and its my first long term master league in PES 2011...
zizou4ever
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No. I believe that those players are randomly generated (name, country and appearence).
Bite.Me
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Player names are random... I've had 4 or 5 different Casillas.... with different heights.
I decided to sign the next Messi, who is 1,80m tall....
Already having 92 attack, 92 in both dribling skills, 90 shot acc, and 90 technique... he is a very useful player for a 16 year old.
Sttill, i use him as a sub...
alphonse02
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It will be similar to that star player. If casilias has early lasting then your next casilias will be having early lasting. You can actually use some editor to open up edit.bin to check.
valid
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In which week do you guys save your game when reloading the youth team? I saved the week before new players spawned, that is just before the transferwindow opens, but in 10 reloads I got the exact same players with minimum difference in skill. Is there a certain week which is optimal for reloading?
zizou4ever
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I save in the last week of June, because the new youth team players will appear in the first week of July (the same week they announce the ranking update, etc.). So if it doesn't work, I reload, proceed to next week and so on.
But there is something strange. The youth team players can be divided in three categories:
- the outstanding players ("the next Messi, CR etc", and "there is something special about this player"): those players usually have higher starting stats;
- medium-to-good players: these players have stats around 70 (between 68-70). They will develop to be good players, but I don't expect them to become fantastic;
- crap players: they usually have very low initial stats (between 41-55). Unless you are using dynamic development, they will take time to become good enough to just be part of the team. To be honest, I never tried to invest in one of them to see whether they develop faster or become any good... :unsure:
What I have noticed is that if you still have some medium-to-good players in your youth team by the first week of July, the "next big thing" will not appear. But if you promote him in the last week of June, then you will be able to have randomly your next big player, and the medium-to-good player that you have just promoted, he will disappear. It is strange, but it works (at last on my PS3).
So, my suggestion is that when you are in the last week of June, promote your youth players who have initial overall stats between 68-70, and save the game. After that week you will get your next big player after some reloads.
Just let me know whether it worked for you as well.
valid
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Thanks zizou, i'll try it out tomorrow when i get some time on my hands. So far i've just promoted every youth player right after respawn.
At the moment i've set up a rule for myself to improve the challenge of the game: Don't buy players, only sell. Use only players from the youth team, and not the konami default, thoose have been sold (I couldn't resist using castolo though since he's so awesome). I've also put the likes of henry, deco, etc. in randoms pes-league teams, so I won't get ridiculous players through the youth.
This means that I I've been playing 3+ seasons with youth players starting in mid forties. Actually some of them have some potential if you're willing to give it time. A chinese guy named shao have gone from 43 to 68, and now posses passing skills in the mid 80, and my striker Hubail from 45 to 69 with all 80 finishing skills. Decent players now and i expect them to reach 80 in a couple of seasons. Then again others are still around 50 after 3 seasons, so i guess it's a bit of a gamle. Anyway, my team made out of 'crap players' is in my fourth season good enough to grant me a current 1st place in premier league.
At the moment i've set up a rule for myself to improve the challenge of the game: Don't buy players, only sell. Use only players from the youth team, and not the konami default, thoose have been sold (I couldn't resist using castolo though since he's so awesome). I've also put the likes of henry, deco, etc. in randoms pes-league teams, so I won't get ridiculous players through the youth.
This means that I I've been playing 3+ seasons with youth players starting in mid forties. Actually some of them have some potential if you're willing to give it time. A chinese guy named shao have gone from 43 to 68, and now posses passing skills in the mid 80, and my striker Hubail from 45 to 69 with all 80 finishing skills. Decent players now and i expect them to reach 80 in a couple of seasons. Then again others are still around 50 after 3 seasons, so i guess it's a bit of a gamle. Anyway, my team made out of 'crap players' is in my fourth season good enough to grant me a current 1st place in premier league.
alphonse02
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After looking at the stats and comparing them from these players including next Ibrahimovic, Ronaldinho, Villla etc, I will conclude that the best stats is Ronaldo the phenomenon. I have a player at 102 OVR at just the age of 18 for him. Pro and cons on him is that he has the highest stats, 6 hidden skills comprises Dribbling, Positioning, Scoring, Lines, Middle Shooting, Centre and Cons will be his form and injury. Next player will be messi followed by C. Ronaldo. I have yet to get Kaka and Torres to compare but I believe their stats will differ from my findings so far.
alphonse02
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For centerback, best will be Lucio and Daniel Alves and both are early lasting and standard lasting. Midfields so far I prefer next Xavi and Iniesta compared to Fabregas. Yet to have next Gerrard yet else will be a better comparison among them.
zizou4ever
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Sorry, Alphonse02, but what do you mean with "hidden skills"? How do you know that they have them?
alphonse02
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Hi Zizou, I played mine in a PC. I believe it should be same as PS3 as well. You can just download an editor http://www.fifacz.com/ by w!Ld@. There are other editor as well but I prefer his. Then you open up the file edit.bin at my document/konami/save directory. There are a total of 11 hidden skills, Dribbling, Tactical dribble, Positioning, Playmaking, Scoring, Post Player, Lines / DF Pos., Middle Shooting (Long range shot), Side, Centre, Curling Shot (ability to curl shot when lobbing just like Henry).
zizou4ever
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Nice! Thanks, Alphonse02!
zizou4ever
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Well, I save the ML in the last week of June and then I proceed to the next week. All those updates will appear (ranking update, collect merchandising, etc.) in the first week of July. Then I check the youth team to see whether I have a new great player ("the next big thing" kind of player). If he is not there or I don't like the one I got it, I quit the ML without saving and reload the last week of June. Then I proceed to the next week and so on, until I get a great player.
Of course, for that works, you need to disable the autosave.