Complete player editing

[bagrunnell]

Have been doing more work on the option file, the eyes are tiring now!:laugh:
Basically had a look at the Arsenal squad and have started players there. Here are some more players that I have done first sets for and a bit of testing:

Eboue revised
Toure
Ashley Cole
Hleb
Just began looking at Ljumberg

Also have revisited Christiano Ronaldo with few tweaks, and have done Ricardo Gardner.

 

[ferdinand93]

how do u do patching?

 

[Matio]

Have been doing more work on the option file, the eyes are tiring now!:laugh:
Basically had a look at the Arsenal squad and have started players there.
Just began looking at Ljurnberg

a fallen legend much like pires looking forward to his downgradin as he has been poor for last few seasons becomin less attackin and scoring fewer goals maybe thats cos hes been dogged by injury as last season he could play more than 3 games in a row and arsenal wouldnt let him have a full recovery

also bags i hav a question how come a single stat from 79-80 effects players so badly on stamina i play people with 80+ and they get through a game easily but players with 75-79 always reach the red bar

 

[bagrunnell]

Just finished watching the Chelsea vs Manchester City game, very satisfied. My man of the match Ricardo Carvalho. Top class reading, and excellent response. Looked very sharp. Any one else watch the game?

 

[HTF]

Yeah, I watched the game bags. My man of the match though has to be essien who bossed the midfield for nintey minuites.

 

[bagrunnell]

Michael Essien did have a great game, am really looking forward to seeing him this season as he didnt really show what he was capable of last season. Like you say, him and Lampard did very well in the midfield, and he seems to be able to cope with that DMF position very well.

 

[bagrunnell]

Shall we maybe have a look at aplayer this evening then? Maybe Lennon or someone?

 

[tingdaman]

lennon would be good, nice to see your views on how to represent him in game. any chance of posting up your Fabregas stats soon? [sorry if im nagging] I wouldn't mind waiting, i was just wondering if you were going to do them soon.

PS. I can only assume you're working hard on the option file. Reply when you have time, I won't force you into posting up a new player. Rushing things doesn't produce best-quality players.

 

[ATH10]

:no:

He played in that position when he was younger and he also played as a wide man, but since he has grown and matured he has become much more accustomed to the defensive/holding midfield role. I very much doubt you will see Hargreaves operating as a right back from this point on in his career.

fair enough but he could play there if he was needed

 

[ATH10]

Just a small reply before MOTD, then will really get back.

Firstly, just because Diarra plays as a DMF, doesnt mean he cant have middle shooting star. Stars are are not limited to positions, and that is one mistake a lot of people make. All a star does is give a certain quality to a player.

And secondly I know Hargreaves can play full back. But the reason I havent assigned him it is because he hasnt played it in ages, and I doubt he really will again. I dont want him to be on a computer controlled team, and they put him at a full back position as it is an assigned one. Dont forget that just because it isnt registered as a position, doesnt mean you cant play him there!

firstly if diarra is so great at shooting why does he play as a dmf secondly hargreaves played at right back a few months ago at the world cup

 

[HTF]

Yeah I think lennon would be a good idea.

 

[HTF]

firstly if diarra is so great at shooting why does he play as a dmf secondly hargreaves played at right back a few months ago at the world cup

Listen, just because hargreaves played there when england didn't have any specialist right back available doesn't warrant him beign give that posistion. If I remember correctly cristiano ronaldo played up front for portugal in large parts of the game against england but you wouldn't call him a centre forward would you?

 

[ATH10]

Listen, just because hargreaves played there when england didn't have any specialist right back available doesn't warrant him beign give that posistion. If I remember correctly cristiano ronaldo played up front for portugal in large parts of the game against england but you wouldn't call him a centre forward would you?

obviously it isnt his main position but he can play there as for ronaldo i would say that he is a winger but he can play as a second striker

 

[tingdaman]

Listen, just because hargreaves played there when england didn't have any specialist right back available doesn't warrant him beign give that posistion. If I remember correctly cristiano ronaldo played up front for portugal in large parts of the game against england but you wouldn't call him a centre forward would you?

Well put, HTF.
ATH10, Bagrunnel didn't say he was a great shooter anyway, he just pointed out that stars aren't restricted to positions. If you noticed, Diarras attack, shot technique, shot accuracy and aggression stats were all in the 60-69 area. This shows that Diarra isn't the best shooter in the world. The aggression stat also recognises that he doesn't go up the field with the ball and tends to sit back.
Altering Hargreaves would mean COM players playing him out of position. Hargreaves didn't feel natural playing as a right-back, anyway

 

[ATH10]

Well put, HTF.
ATH10, Bagrunnel didn't say he was a great shooter anyway, he just pointed out that stars aren't restricted to positions. If you noticed, Diarras attack, shot technique, shot accuracy and aggression stats were all in the 60-69 area. This shows that Diarra isn't the best shooter in the world. The aggression stat also recognises that he doesn't go up the field with the ball and tends to sit back.

alright then but the middle shooting star is given to players who are quite capable of scoring from outside the box and diarra isnt capable of that thats why he has low shooting stats otherwise we may aswell give it to every other central midfielder

 

[HTF]

Regarding diarra's shooting, come on thats like saying 'if ballacks so good in the air why isn't he playing centre half'.

 

[ATH10]

Regarding diarra's shooting, come on thats like saying 'if ballacks so good in the air why isn't he playing centre half'.

fair enough but do think he should have it? basically im saying diarra should no way have the middle shooting star

 

[tingdaman]

alright then but the middle shooting star is given to players who are quite capable of scoring from outside the box and diarra isnt capable of that thats why he has low shooting stats otherwise we may aswell give it to every other central midfielder

I'm not meaning to sound bad here, im just trying to give a rough outline of why Diarra's stats are like that [bear that in mind. ]
The middle shooting star isn't given to players who are capable of scoring from outside the box. Its given to improve the player's ability to take shots from distance. This doesn't guarentee goals. I do realise what you're saying, but you'll just have to trust Bagrunnel's judgement on this player. It's not as if all of us have seen Lassanna Diarra, anyway

Also, I believe HTF wanted to know what the response stat did. Heres the Official guide's representation of it:

This is an important attribute. First and foremost, you can view it as a measure of how promptly a player will react to your commands - for example, when making a quick turn while dribbling to pass a defender. For CPU-controlled players (including goalkeepers), it shows how fast a player's reflexes are. Finally, Response also indicates how quickly a player thinks: players with high levels will collect more loose balls, intercept more passes, and be better at getting into position for headers.

 

[bagrunnell]

Thanks for posting that up, I have had no time to reply to that in depth. That is a pretty basic explanation, so I will elaborate with some important points.

And back to this middle shooting issue. I dont think you quite understand what the middle shooting star does ATH10, because it isnt really used to make it easier to score from distance, only in an indirect manner.

And you are still not treating Lassana as an individual. Just because he plays DMF, it is no reason to deny him the ability to have certain stars. Just like Dean Ashton has the passing star, even though he is a striker!

And by you saying Hargreaves can still play right back is exactly what I meant! The reason I dont have it as a position is because I dont want the computer to put him there. But you can still play him there!


And regarding the next player, I was going to keep Fabregas until the option file, but if you want him now that is fine. I wouldn't have thought I would do any 'really long' analysis at the moment, as the option file my main priority. What I really would like is you people to try and have a topic or discussion. I would be more than willing to post a set of stats for the likes of Lennon or Fabregas, but it would be cool to have a talk about them first.

 

[chrisw2k5]

WOW ! The thread is alive again !

Fantastic to see. I go away for 1 week (on holiday) and look what happens ! I shall be looking through you're recent updates in depth tomorrow. What's this of an option file I heard ? I remember you saying you were gonna do an excel spreadsheet of stats, has that idea now turned into an OF?