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Does PES3 Cheat you?

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bwfcste

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When playing PES3 usually in a master league i have noticed that when you usually get into some sort of good position that the game then starts to, well lets say 'CHEAT'.

Just for the game or 2 everything i do becomes hard (impossible) to do. A simple pass or 10 yards is played in between their defenders rather than your players or hit hit so hard it goes out.

Or i control the reciever of a pass only for it be controlled and then roll about 15 yards away. Another is im in a 50/50 with the com only for the com players leg to stretch about 10 yards to get the ball.

This leaves me so annoyed as it is abviously just not letting you win. WHY???

I just dont get it. Its Ok after the few games and is back to normal with fewer cock ups like normal football. And no my players where all on green and orange and they was good players against a rather average team.

Has anyone else noticed this rather strange behavior from the game??????? Or is it just me?and dont say im crap coz i aint.
 
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sheringham316

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What it is, threw out tha game you've let them conrtol possesion which means they are proberly controling the game. So when you get tha ball, they will have you under more pressure not lettin you do successful things.
A way to get around this is, gettin tha ball in defence and keep passin it about, eventually you should start to bring tha ball into there half and then things will start to be tha same...but be aware casue when you're passin it around in defence it can get difficult since you opposing team will run at you leaving you less time to pass... so when this happens dribble bk to ya goalkeeper.
This is just to calm them down abit ;) it works!!
 
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bwfcste

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No its not that. it just go's mad. i cant keep possesion coz it wont let me. everytime i do any sort of telling pass it just pisses me off by doing poor control. Its like everything that goes wrong in a whole season goes wrong in 1 game. I know what it is. It just wont let you win, simple as. and its not the first couple of games its just wenneva.
 
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bwfcste

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Although i know what your saying. Im a pro i know how to play it, it just does it. Now i have made you aware you will probably notice it.
 
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sheringham316

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This has happened to me many times before not just in tha odd match in a season... its just like a traddition in all tha pes's or even we's.. lol
This has been in all tha pes's (not sure about we's) but its jut sumthin which you have to live with.. or throw a pad at tha wall to keep ya self cool :)... or just kick tha shit into a pillow till you release your anger... :D:D
With me it happens but tha only way to really conquer it is by playin betta and gettin more out of tha game!!
 
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bwfcste

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yes i go through several pillows a game. Its such a pain in the arse. Its as if it jumps from 5 star to 7 star+. AAAHHHHH
 
Nifty1Pound50

Nifty1Pound50

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I don't know about a 10-yard stretch tackle...although the AI does seem to misuse "luck" to their own advantage in crucial games.

The two cases of "cheating" I've noticed were both clearly technical issues.

1. Dying moments of my friend's title-clinching 6-pointer against Inter, and the ball goes through (yes, through) Kahn's chest and rolls in, giving Inter the title.

2. Last game of the season. Me and Inter are on joint points. I draw away to Perugia 1-1. Inter get beaten 1-0 in the Stadio Olimpico by Roma (according to the Schedule menu, at least). Inter somehow are awarded a point, and stay on level points with me, stealing the title on goal difference (and I mean stealing!).

The game doesn't cheat. Luck can go against you in crucial games sometimes, which is when everyone echoes the cries of "Cheat!" I'm sure luck has gone your way many times, like with all of these miraculous comebacks described in other threads, where you score two late goals, and their players blunder, or get unlucky with deflections.

It works both ways.
 
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jackass

jackass

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Yeh this happens 2 me, i am playing a league with Brazil in 5 star, i am top of the league, when i beat Romania 5 - 0 it has suddenly became harder, and they score some dodgey goal.
 
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robinho17

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yes the cpu cheats..many times..the only way of avoiding it..is just by scoring enough goals for them not to comeback. I noticed once the cpu starts doing bycicle kicks then your gone. So many times i have had 4 goals advantages..for the cpu to comback by scoring all goals by bycicle kicks, long range goals,mis fortunes from keeper,deflections of defenders right in the last 5mins on 5*..your keeper can have the best games for 85mins..then in the last 5 can let in the softest of goals right within a hair from him.at the same time..you have an easy opportunity then a simple tap in will hit the bar or blow away...strange after scoring 4 goals..u cant get the simple ones??? All you gotta do is score score score...but if that fails..nothing u can do..the cpu was destined to win the game.
 
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glottis

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yes, that's right. funny thing, it always happens in matches against teams which are close to you in the league. in my last ML southern division 1 season i won or drew all matches with juve, milan and inter, while i lost against teams which challange my ranking. this sucks extremely much and is a MAJOR flaw to the game. i mean it is sooooo stupid to see your best players not being able to stop a ball or do turns which they usually need 0.5m for in a 3m radius.
they should rather improve to CPU AI which btw is pretty good already. sometimes you feel you're gonna loose a match just when you play the first passes. HATE!
 
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sheringham316

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From what your explaining it sounds like tha presure thing, where tha players dont pass properly,dribble, shoot etc. I think that's real since it happens in real life.. i know when im playin football and my team is dominating then tha other team panics and do silly things with tha ball.
This has happened to me many times in pes aswell, you just have to get your flow going. I know what you mean by right at tha begining you know your meant to loose... casue tha ball goes all over tha place, even simple passes go completely wrong!! Tha only wayy you come around this is to play alot betta, by keeping them cool, so that they dont keep on attacking casue thats what they're do when there "so called cheating" Even players like Kewel wont play properly regarless weither they are on green or yellow!! While i was playin i noticed that they wasnt passin right casue as soon as they had been passed too, tha opposing side's player came running at you, leaving you with little time to do anythin, which also leaves you a cock up pass or shot. If this does keep happening then just dribble... not to score but to go into defence!! Another thing i noticed while i was playin today was... a very easy way to get rid of this... lets say its just been about 25- 30 mins where you've played completely weriod, hardly any successful passes, shots... just go to "there" end of tha pitch and run out leaving them with a throw in... You'll see a huge difference between how they was playin and how they are!! This may shape your game up... well in the end it helped me out, unless i have a fake pes try it out!!
 
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jbavon

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I think you're all mad... somewhat ;)


I can agree, with the fact that the occasional game will have your team playing poorly. But there are several game factors that can play in here.

1: Player mentality
2: Player form
3: Player Consistency
4: Opposing teams formation
5: Opposing team: Same as 1, 2 and 3
6: Your formation to their formation
7: The opposing teams strategy (zone press, counter attack etc.)

And there are a couple of personal ones as well.

1: My play always gets cramped after i've played for more than an hour, i start to stress me players and passes, and get nowhere. I usually find myself improved after a small break.


The main error seems to be that you try to get forward too fat.

Finally: I refuse to believe you cant even pass the ball around in your own half, and not even make those passes, its just not true. Finally i would have to say that its 100% true that every team has a (or several) collective offday(s) when playing an entire season.
 
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wbradney

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Interesting thread. I've found that there are times when the CPU definitely gets a lot of lucky bounces while nothing seems to go right for you as a player. It's almost like you can feel it when it starts to happen - all of a sudden for a spell of a few minutes simple passes seems to go astray, crosses always go behind, simple chances get blazed over the bar, and if the CPU wins the ball (likely) your defenders get half a yard slower (CPU forwards that you've had in your pocket the whole game will suddenly start playing above their abilities). The thing that pisses me off the most is that the whole team is affected: ALL of your lot get worse, ALL or their lot get better.

It's especially noticeable with CPU through balls: it's not the quality of the through ball that improves, or that the runner get a speed boost - what actually happens is that YOUR marker just seems to stop running or limps along for those few crucial seconds like he's been hobbled. If you're quick enough to spot it (and you have to be REALLY quick) you can switch to the next nearest defender and hopefully cut across to intercept, but more often than not once the CPU is in this "super" mode you may as well resign yourself to the fact you're going to concede. I find it very difficult to keep a clean sheet in 30min games against an equally matched side - I can go 4-0 up by halftime but you can bet your life the CPU will get at least a couple back before the end. Most of my exhibition games I end up winning 3-2 or 4-3 with a winner in the last 5-10 mins, or a dubiously awarded penalty (it almost seems like the CPU acknowledges that it's cheated and throws you a bone).

Nevertheless, I still love this game, although I've crushed a couple of controllers with my bare hands since I bought it.
 
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glottis

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nah, "objective" factors like formation, form etc. kick far less in. i won games against top-teams with my out of form players.
it happens that the cpu scores goals a la maradona with players that have dribbling ratings in the 60-70ies.
 
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glottis

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and i think it mainly or exclusively happens in the ML. in cup mode it happens that i outshoot the cpu 10-2 and loose 0-2, but at least i got these 10 shots.
 
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