Drop Kick

[cadburyho]

Having played PES3 actively since its release, it has dawned on me that each keeper has their own unique style of performing the drop kick. For instance, Oliver Kahn’s drop kick is higher but lacked distance when compared with Dida’s whose drop kick is lower but and has more distance.. The point I am getting at is that there is no keeper in PES3 that can perform a drop kick strong enough for the ball to reach the opponent’s goalmouth. In a real match, it is possible for a keeper even to score a goal via a drop kick. Unless I have missed something, I have seen two incidents once on TV and the other in a live match, where the ball took a bounce direct from a drop kick and went past the opposing keeper for goal.

It would be great if PES3 could review the distance of the drop kicks. It would be more realistic if it could reach the opponent’s goalmouth.Who knows with a little luck, the ball could just bounce beyond the keeper’s reach.It would be instrumental if there is a power bar for us to control the distance of our drop kick.What do you think?

 

[Wiserommer]

erm chelivert is your answer bud

 

[pubey3k]

erm chelivert is your answer bud

yeah chilivert has nearly scored on no less than 5 ocassions for me from a goal kick, has such power and usually gets good height on them

 

[Mambo]

Having played PES3 actively since its release, it has dawned on me that each keeper has their own unique style of performing the drop kick. For instance, Oliver Kahn’s drop kick is higher but lacked distance when compared with Dida’s whose drop kick is lower but and has more distance.. The point I am getting at is that there is no keeper in PES3 that can perform a drop kick strong enough for the ball to reach the opponent’s goalmouth. In a real match, it is possible for a keeper even to score a goal via a drop kick. Unless I have missed something, I have seen two incidents once on TV and the other in a live match, where the ball took a bounce direct from a drop kick and went past the opposing keeper for goal.

It would be great if PES3 could review the distance of the drop kicks. It would be more realistic if it could reach the opponent’s goalmouth.Who knows with a little luck, the ball could just bounce beyond the keeper’s reach.It would be instrumental if there is a power bar for us to control the distance of our drop kick.What do you think?

So you've seen it happen twice. How many games have you watched? And thus how often does it happen? You don't see 'keeper kicks reach teh opposing goal that often either

 

[cadburyho]

So you've seen it happen twice. How many games have you watched? And thus how often does it happen? You don't see 'keeper kicks reach teh opposing goal that often either

I have no idea that Chilivert could kick that far. I will try it tonight.
Back to your questions, I believe that most keepers can kick that far, at least right up to the penalty box. The reason that not many keeper perform such kick is because of time it will be wasted. One must have the confidence, accuracy and also the opposing keeper should be out of position.

 

[Wiserommer]

some keepers do it quite well, but chilivert really really gets the distance, almost like a through ball situation all the time

 

[Thomas]

If you could score directly from a drop kick there virtually wouldn't be any skill involved since you have very little control over the keepers in PES - that would make "the drop kick button" a kind of "goal button" that you could push and hope for the best while you opponent could just sit and watch his keeper go through the automatic motions trying to save the shot. In my opinion that would be much too Fifa-like.

 

[MatPhillips]

my cousin does this weird thing from goal kicks where he runs to the ball to kick it and carries on with it (dribbles) until he kicks it (glitch)

 

[Jasper]

yeah it is all to do with whether they have a star for gk kicks

 

[cadburyho]

If you could score directly from a drop kick there virtually wouldn't be any skill involved since you have very little control over the keepers in PES - that would make "the drop kick button" a kind of "goal button" that you could push and hope for the best while you opponent could just sit and watch his keeper go through the automatic motions trying to save the shot. In my opinion that would be much too Fifa-like.

But do consider it is extremely difficult to score via a drop kick.
For it to produce fruitful result, the keeper must be off his line and ball coming like torpedo must hit the correct point, bounce over the keeper and right to the net. Not an easy task. Keepers do not always try this because it is difficult and it is better not to waste the shot. Keeper sometimes try this out of frustration when his team is down and out with no chances of a comeback.

 

[spikeymaracca]

but why would u want the ball to reach the opposing teams goal mouth? what would be the point in giving the opposing team the ball straight from when your keeper gets it? stupid....

 

[quiet_will]

how do you drop kick instead of the normal punt from the hands?

 

[cadburyho]

but why would u want the ball to reach the opposing teams goal mouth? what would be the point in giving the opposing team the ball straight from when your keeper gets it? stupid....

I can understand your reservation. But that is not the objective.
The keeper main intention is to score and not to give possession.If your team is peforming like a bunch of bungling amateurs, totally played out what do expect your keeper to do?
Chances of scoring through a drop kick maybe slim but not impossible . In our local leagues comprising of merely amateurs, keepers are more daring and willing to take risk so we get to see more of such stunts. So far, I have witnessed two goals scored from drop kick once on TV and another at a stadium. On both occasions the ball hit the ground like a missile near the penalty spot , bounced high enough to go beyond the keeper’s reach for a beautiful goal. I have seen many near misses too,with the ball bouncing just past the crossbar.Correct me if I am wrong, if amateurs can land his drop kick right to the penalty box, what about professionals? Their training is much tougher and more demanding. Physically, they have greater strength and stamina than an amateur so it is logical to assume that their kick can reach the goal mouth. I can understand that kicking the ball right to the goalmouth is not as dangerous to those that that hit the ground and bounce since it could easily be retrieved by the keeper. However I must admit I am not sure whether that is the furthest a keeper can land his kick. I am also not sure whether it is physically possible for a keeper to kick beyond the opponent’s goalmouth. Maybe someone can shed some light on this as I have not seen any incident like this before.If it is at all possible, perhaps only a handful of keepers can peform it.Has anyone seen a goal scored direct from a drop kick without the ball hitting the ground first, I mean crashing in from the crossbar.

 

[spikeymaracca]

ok, so on the game lets let schmeichel(prob spelt wrong) throw to the opposing teams pen box. because he did it once or twice. its stupid. You dont see keepers in the premier league doing it.

plus wouldnt it make PES games so bloody boring having to roll the ball out every single time.

and say its the 89th minute. what would u do roll the ball out to the defender, or kick it upfield for a chance to score?Now, if the keepers kicked it to the opposing pen box everytime you'd be screwed. because if you roll the ball out there may not be enough time. Get me now?!

 

[lazandreas]

what a load of crap, as if letting the keeper kick goals will make the game more realistic, and no keepers hardly ever kick all the way to penalty box, i dont know where u are getting this from, im actually laughing that u even suggested this

 

[pubey3k]

he only meant if in the odd blue moon that it happened, like mentioned i have only seen it happen at most two times during watching football. i said chilivert could do it but out of the like 5000 goal kicks or drop kicks ive did with him it has reached the box like 10times not even as much as that probably, now just take a few deep breaths, calm down.................ok now lets continue the discussion

 

[Wiserommer]

Ive had quite a few keepers on my time during WE7 and well some kicked far some dont, chelivert is an exceptional goalie on there. I guess the japs thought hey he can take brilliant free kicks, so why not kick a ball 100 yards up the field O.O

 

[cadburyho]

ok, so on the game lets let schmeichel(prob spelt wrong) throw to the opposing teams pen box. because he did it once or twice. its stupid. You dont see keepers in the premier league doing it.

plus wouldnt it make PES games so bloody boring having to roll the ball out every single time.

and say its the 89th minute. what would u do roll the ball out to the defender, or kick it upfield for a chance to score?Now, if the keepers kicked it to the opposing pen box everytime you'd be screwed. because if you roll the ball out there may not be enough time. Get me now?!

Oh you got me wrong again. Perhaps I did not make myself really clear as to why I have suggested this move in the first place. WE7/PES3 is a phenomenal. The game is extremely realistic save for the handball part. However nothing is perfect. As we play the game, we tend to discover areas where there are shortcomings(like the handball) or limitations. PES3/WE7 has done a great job in simulating the game. They have never been complacent and has always been in the look out for new ideas to make the game even more realistic. What I have suggested can be done in real life. It is not a question whether it is stupid or wise. It is a question of whether we are able to perform that move if we wanted to. Yes, I agree that most often than not, such shots will not produce result as it can easily be intercepted either by the keeper or defenders. Perhaps that is the reason we seldom see such feat being perform in the EPL , well we do not know. However the feat is not impossible. By having this move will make the game even more exciting as we could use this move as a last resort. I mean we have a choice. If you do not have the confidence , don't try it., like in real life.Eg. down 0-1, one more minute to go and the opposing keeper clearly off his line, I will be silly not to try it.

 

[Cellini]

Pat Jennings scored one very famous goal kick in the seventies (captured on tv), the ball bounced and the opposing GK mis-judged it.

It's like the long free-kicks into the area I've scored several times - the keeper comes out, maybe gets brushed by a team-mate, or my CF and misses the ball. I got them from 40 - 44m.

Try it with Left stick full forward, holding R2 and give it half-way on the power bar. It does depend on some luck, but it does happen.

If certain keepers had the power to throw to the half-way line (e.g. like Schmeichal to Giggs so many times) or belt it into the opposing area (maybe having to bounce before it crossed the goal line). But maybe something else would have to happen for it to go through for a goal, like a clash between CF and DF going for the header, and/or the GK stranded in no-man's land by a high/low bounce.

In the 89th minute you've got to get the ball into the opposition third and keep it there until you can create a good shot. The ref never seems to blow while an attack is actually in progress, only when the ball goes out of play or it is cleared into midfield.

If I had the chance of a break I might use the DF to play it quickly to a MF running ahead of him.

If not, I might roll it to a defender out wide to drive it up field - holding L1 and square - I think it's more likely to hit one of my CF's who'll try to knock it down to a teammate.

Maybe the keepers should be able to drop the ball, run out another 18-20m and do that themselves. They already do come up for last minute corners. That would open up the remote possibility of a lucky goal for them.

 

[jon ob]

whatever