[EXPORTS] All National Teams (PS4)
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ThomasFuchs
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Absolut disappointed. You have 4 exports in over 6 weeks but want to finish by end of august.
Sorry but wants again i made most of this teams (with only 2 weeks of work) and get less credit. I am out completely.
Sorry but wants again i made most of this teams (with only 2 weeks of work) and get less credit. I am out completely.
Speckkopf
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who says you get less credit? i write credit for every team separately. did i ever claim something is made by me if it's not?
i said always, i can only use the time i have, there are more things for me to do then editing in PES, needless to say i have a fulltime job and a family and can not spend 10 hours every day at the playstation.
when i say we will be finished until end of august, then we will be. if you are not satisfied with that i can't help you, some months are easier for me, some are not.
from the 6 teams i made, Seychelles took 3 days, Eritrea took a week (with 2 days without PS4), Anguilla took also 5 days (for nothing because i destroyed it). Bahrain which i also made is not uploaded yet.
it is a big project with big amount of work and i don't want to discuss why it's not always going fast.
Speckkopf
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no one make these teams please, for next update:
Chad, Djibouti, Niger, Sao Tome & Principe, Tanzania ; Aruba, Montserrat; Fiji
Tanzania will be uploaded this week with the other teams which aren't uploaded yet. Zimbabwe and Kosovo Packages need to be updated, will also reupload them this week.
Chad, Djibouti, Niger, Sao Tome & Principe, Tanzania ; Aruba, Montserrat; Fiji
Tanzania will be uploaded this week with the other teams which aren't uploaded yet. Zimbabwe and Kosovo Packages need to be updated, will also reupload them this week.
ThomasFuchs
Registered User
For every export i made you give credit t.fuchs/speckkopf.
First i have 99% of work for my teams
Second this is your side its nice from me to give you all the teams but you will have 50% of the credit for it (for little change that at most times i didnt want).
Its really easy to count around 11 weeks until september last 6 weeks you made 6 teams so you made 11 teams until september. Far away from over 50.
For 2 weeks everybody say ok we hurry up a little bit. 2 weeks later i am back and once again the only one that hurry up but the only one that say we finished best end of september thats why i pissed
Speckkopf
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always when someone gives me team gets credit in first place and i myself in second place because i have less work with it (what doesn't mean no work).
but that's not the point, i don't need credit for the work from others, i delete my name from those teams....
the rest is like i said, that's a game, has not priority in life and i definitely not make pressure to myself with it, and always discussing about how much/how quick things work make me also pissed, i have enough other things to do than this useless discussions.
i will not say anything about that from now on.
ThomasFuchs
Registered User
I never say make PES to first priority in your life. But if you say something than do it.
philips_99
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[MENTION=239286]ThomasFuchs[/MENTION] ,
Sorry for answering, but I couldn't stay indifferent to this. Don't take this badly, but I think you're being a little bit ungrateful. Speckkopf started this project not as an obligation, but for fun, joy and enjoyment. And you're not paying anything for it, aren't you? If Speckkopf couldn't do more teams, it's because he didn't have the time or something else stopped him from doing teams. Also sometimes we are not in the mood to play. This is a game, it's something to have fun and enjoy on our free time. It's not something that takes us away from our real lives or to make us stressed.
There's many things on live that can make us stressed, but videogames shouldn't be one of them. Life is too short to stress with these little things.
About the credit, I just want to say that you need team spirit. You're here because you wanted to help on this project, right? And you already knew that Speckkopf was the mastermind after this project. He researched a lot, and started doing all alone, before he joined ggdaris and his kits, and makes a lot of adjustments, base copies and makes sure that everything is compatible and there's no clashes. If that's not doing something, I don't know what it is.
So, why worry about these little things? He gave credit to you right? Aren't you enjoying the game and the teams? If you don't want his changes, just stick to your teams, don't import his. Speckkopf is just trying to help making the teams more realistic and coherent with the other teams in this project. How do you wanted to be credited? With your name as a sponsor on every shirt plus a picture of you next to the flag of the country? :laugh:
The project will be finished once it's finished, there's no reason to set a release date. We are not professionals, and we're not getting paid for this. It's for pure fun and enjoyment. Also, faster doesn't mean better. One of the characteristics of this project is being accurate and realistic (something that Speckkopf is trying to do when he does his little changes to your teams), and that's something that takes time. I hope you (and everyone reading this) understand that.
I don't want to extend this conversation much further. Relax, enjoy your game and live your life
P.S: [MENTION=238087]Speckkopf[/MENTION] , I still didn't had the time to create the teams. I started with Antígua and Barbuda on Saturday, but some things came up in real life and I didn't have more time to play. And these two teams will take some time because of the lack of information which you will (hopefully ) fix. From Thursday I'll have more free time I think, it will be easier for me to help. Btw, I saw you removed your name from Atg. Barbuda and St. Lucia on the spreadsheet. I don't mind if you have your name in the credits, I didn't make this alone, you created the template and you will make some changes, so the credit isn't all mine.
Sorry for answering, but I couldn't stay indifferent to this. Don't take this badly, but I think you're being a little bit ungrateful. Speckkopf started this project not as an obligation, but for fun, joy and enjoyment. And you're not paying anything for it, aren't you? If Speckkopf couldn't do more teams, it's because he didn't have the time or something else stopped him from doing teams. Also sometimes we are not in the mood to play. This is a game, it's something to have fun and enjoy on our free time. It's not something that takes us away from our real lives or to make us stressed.
There's many things on live that can make us stressed, but videogames shouldn't be one of them. Life is too short to stress with these little things.
About the credit, I just want to say that you need team spirit. You're here because you wanted to help on this project, right? And you already knew that Speckkopf was the mastermind after this project. He researched a lot, and started doing all alone, before he joined ggdaris and his kits, and makes a lot of adjustments, base copies and makes sure that everything is compatible and there's no clashes. If that's not doing something, I don't know what it is.
So, why worry about these little things? He gave credit to you right? Aren't you enjoying the game and the teams? If you don't want his changes, just stick to your teams, don't import his. Speckkopf is just trying to help making the teams more realistic and coherent with the other teams in this project. How do you wanted to be credited? With your name as a sponsor on every shirt plus a picture of you next to the flag of the country? :laugh:
The project will be finished once it's finished, there's no reason to set a release date. We are not professionals, and we're not getting paid for this. It's for pure fun and enjoyment. Also, faster doesn't mean better. One of the characteristics of this project is being accurate and realistic (something that Speckkopf is trying to do when he does his little changes to your teams), and that's something that takes time. I hope you (and everyone reading this) understand that.
I don't want to extend this conversation much further. Relax, enjoy your game and live your life
P.S: [MENTION=238087]Speckkopf[/MENTION] , I still didn't had the time to create the teams. I started with Antígua and Barbuda on Saturday, but some things came up in real life and I didn't have more time to play. And these two teams will take some time because of the lack of information which you will (hopefully
) fix. From Thursday I'll have more free time I think, it will be easier for me to help. Btw, I saw you removed your name from Atg. Barbuda and St. Lucia on the spreadsheet. I don't mind if you have your name in the credits, I didn't make this alone, you created the template and you will make some changes, so the credit isn't all mine.
Speckkopf
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[MENTION=237799]philips_99[/MENTION]
first of all, please take any time you need for the teams, i noticed that our Antigua and Barbuda kits are outdated also, i will try to do the new ones, if i fail i'll ask Nemanja.
i would never describe myself as "mastermind", i don't even think i am more important than others, for example i think the work from [MENTION=227392]ggdaris[/MENTION] making 99% of all the kits and even helping with teams after finishing, is much more important because not everybody could do that. what i do, everyone can do, it's just the question how much time one will give for.
i know it's not easy to imagine, for example making team like Eritrea where you start having a name of a player and that's all, when you "stalk" facebook profiles of players (it's funny when 200 people share the same name...) to get the appearance how they look and to guess the height, comparing the face with a team photo so you can see what boots they wear, to control the height by compare with team mates, to see if he has a fking tape on the left hand or not, and searching youtube videos to see from lineup, which exact position does he play, how i know if centre back or left back, if right foot or left foot, which player takes free-kicks, corners and penalties, .....
if you are into this, it can happen you research 4 hours for one single player but this is the standard of quality i want to do and not less, if i want i make 3 teams a day but not this quality.
the question is what one wants, want it like FIFA World Cup 2014 style where only player names are correct or want it like i do it where even the third goalkeeper from Eritrea National Team does wear the same boots and keeper gloves like in real.
And then you have a situation where you need 5 days for one team, but 5 days where you can take the time to sit on PS4, no chance to do that 5 days in a row without 2 or 3 days in between without PS4.
we are at a point where there are not many "easy" teams left, it is a difference if i make Kenya which took me a half day or if i make Anguilla.
But like i said 10 times, before PES 18 is out, this will be finished and if i get, for example a month before, the feeling it will be close or hard then i can compensate the lost time with more effort and time.
but like i said, it's not lost time to make teams but lost time to discuss such stuff.
first of all, please take any time you need for the teams, i noticed that our Antigua and Barbuda kits are outdated also, i will try to do the new ones, if i fail i'll ask Nemanja.
i would never describe myself as "mastermind", i don't even think i am more important than others, for example i think the work from [MENTION=227392]ggdaris[/MENTION] making 99% of all the kits and even helping with teams after finishing, is much more important because not everybody could do that. what i do, everyone can do, it's just the question how much time one will give for.
i know it's not easy to imagine, for example making team like Eritrea where you start having a name of a player and that's all, when you "stalk" facebook profiles of players (it's funny when 200 people share the same name...) to get the appearance how they look and to guess the height, comparing the face with a team photo so you can see what boots they wear, to control the height by compare with team mates, to see if he has a fking tape on the left hand or not, and searching youtube videos to see from lineup, which exact position does he play, how i know if centre back or left back, if right foot or left foot, which player takes free-kicks, corners and penalties, .....
if you are into this, it can happen you research 4 hours for one single player but this is the standard of quality i want to do and not less, if i want i make 3 teams a day but not this quality.
the question is what one wants, want it like FIFA World Cup 2014 style where only player names are correct or want it like i do it where even the third goalkeeper from Eritrea National Team does wear the same boots and keeper gloves like in real.
And then you have a situation where you need 5 days for one team, but 5 days where you can take the time to sit on PS4, no chance to do that 5 days in a row without 2 or 3 days in between without PS4.
we are at a point where there are not many "easy" teams left, it is a difference if i make Kenya which took me a half day or if i make Anguilla.
But like i said 10 times, before PES 18 is out, this will be finished and if i get, for example a month before, the feeling it will be close or hard then i can compensate the lost time with more effort and time.
but like i said, it's not lost time to make teams but lost time to discuss such stuff.
ThomasFuchs
Registered User
Maybe you are right and i take it a little bit to seriously but you are not neutral in my opinion.
I never give a date for a finish and when you only make the half of exports then it is ok that speckkopf get the credit too. He maybe is your mastermind not my i only create teams that i can make 98% alone most 100%.
Because i also search much to made my teams 100%
But like you say some weeks before. Speckkopf makes the teams alone. Sorry you know nothing how much time how long and how much teams i made create and help. I was searching kits with daris month before speckkopf start his project.
Incredible that phillips think speckkopf makes all and i am ungradeful. We made a bit over 60 teams and i made 30 of that. You are ungradeful against me. To play with my teams and say me something like that. I made every face correkt i am the first that look for the shoes the players wear and you doing like i make nothing thats what i mean with less credit less respect
I never give a date for a finish and when you only make the half of exports then it is ok that speckkopf get the credit too. He maybe is your mastermind not my i only create teams that i can make 98% alone most 100%.
Because i also search much to made my teams 100%
But like you say some weeks before. Speckkopf makes the teams alone. Sorry you know nothing how much time how long and how much teams i made create and help. I was searching kits with daris month before speckkopf start his project.
Incredible that phillips think speckkopf makes all and i am ungradeful. We made a bit over 60 teams and i made 30 of that. You are ungradeful against me. To play with my teams and say me something like that. I made every face correkt i am the first that look for the shoes the players wear and you doing like i make nothing thats what i mean with less credit less respect
philips_99
Registered User
Hey,
I completely understand your point, and I really appreciate your teams, seriously. I also make some club teams, but they are not as far as good as the teams you make. And I know how much work is needed to make good team exports, but I am not afraid of work and that's why I offered my help. And even though I don't know the exact number of teams you have done, I know they were a lot, I've been following this thread almost since the beginning (even though I didn't start helping at the beginning), and I see on updates and credits your name dozens of times. Seriously, I love your work, and you didn't went unnoticed by me. You really deserve credit and recognition.
I just didn't like when you said you're pissed off because the delays, hurries and all of that. There is no need to hurry, the world doesn't end in September. Games are made to have fun, and if Speckkopf delays an update, it's because he couldn't bring it to us. If the project is finished after PES 2018 is released, be it, for me it's ok. I know we are all anxious for the full project :tongue: but we have to take it easy, otherwise, it won't be fun, and the main objective of a game is to have fun. I hope you understand my point of view.
And maybe expressed wrong, when I said "mastermind" maybe I should said "founder" of this project, I know that your work and ggdaris work is as important as Speckkopf team exports. However, I think I was right when I said we are a team. And on teams, there is always more "tense" moments, right? :laugh:
Sorry if I looked like I hate you, but I'll let you know that I don't. Everyone gets pissed off sometimes :happy: So I hope it's everything ok.
ThomasFuchs
Registered User
Thanks that you like what i do.
You are right first it most stands the fun to the game and also the fun to create a team. I am often to impatient. It is really a long way.
At the end i am happy that we have speckkopf without him we never finished. Altough daris all the kits and now he makes exports too.
By rhe way: tomorrow i finished solomon islands
They qualified for oceania playoffs against new zeeland
i am going to do Djibouti when i finish Somalia, sorry i need more time to that team beacuse of my job and my new game (horizon) i dont have time too finish them (my son play to in my ps4 ;( )
i only have a desire to this project, i do the kits to have all team exports of the world, and play with them, there only left little teams, thats why i can concentrate to make team exports (stats, faces, etc) and dont have important to new kits for now, my time is reduced, maybe in july i have 2 weeks of vacations and can do more teams more quickly than now.
I only say 10 or 15 people download my exports teams (each one), and only talk here 4 people including me, i dont understand that people they only download and dont thanks to others.
i have to uplodad the team exports with new kits, Mozambique and Afghanistan
for now i am going to finish somalia, then next i do Djibouti ok, cheers for all
Speckkopf
Registered User
take all time you need, no problem.
anyway please, i would really like to make Djibouti myself if it's okay for you
take all time you need, no problem.
anyway please, i would really like to make Djibouti myself if it's okay for you
ok no problem , i am going to do Niger, ok
yes is near to finish, i love your kenya team, is great
only have a little thing in Eritrea team, you use your kits, and not the fixed by me, i add some texture and fifa logos to them :tongue:
i post them a lot of months ago, chek it
Speckkopf
Registered User
oh yeah, looks like i took the wrong ones, i will update that.
Hi, guys.
Fairly new here.
I have a question re: "national team selection". I DLed a very good patch that gave me a number of teams like Zenit, Legia, etc.
Now, one specific example of an issue I have been having is the following: on Brazil I'm trying to Kaka out for Zenit's Giuliano. Giuliano is listed as Brazilian on his "basic settings" page, yet when I look for him after I pick Kaka to have him swapped out, I cannot find him. I tried switching his nationality to see if it was a glitch with my copy or whatnot but no luck.
Then for sh!ts and giggles I tried doing the same with Belgium and Legia's Odidja-Ofoe (sp?) and he would not show up under the available Belgian players.
So I gather players that come into the game through a patch are not available for NT selection? Yes, no? If there is a way to get them into their NT, could you guys help me out?
I also tried to swap Pastore out of Argentina for Dybala but he too was not "available" (or, rather would not show under available Argie players), though is included as one of the original teams in the game, as you guys know it has a fake name and logo (both of those "issues" were rectified by my patch).
Anyhow, any help will be greatly appreciated.
Regards.
Fairly new here.
I have a question re: "national team selection". I DLed a very good patch that gave me a number of teams like Zenit, Legia, etc.
Now, one specific example of an issue I have been having is the following: on Brazil I'm trying to Kaka out for Zenit's Giuliano. Giuliano is listed as Brazilian on his "basic settings" page, yet when I look for him after I pick Kaka to have him swapped out, I cannot find him. I tried switching his nationality to see if it was a glitch with my copy or whatnot but no luck.
Then for sh!ts and giggles I tried doing the same with Belgium and Legia's Odidja-Ofoe (sp?) and he would not show up under the available Belgian players.
So I gather players that come into the game through a patch are not available for NT selection? Yes, no? If there is a way to get them into their NT, could you guys help me out?
I also tried to swap Pastore out of Argentina for Dybala but he too was not "available" (or, rather would not show under available Argie players), though is included as one of the original teams in the game, as you guys know it has a fake name and logo (both of those "issues" were rectified by my patch).
Anyhow, any help will be greatly appreciated.
Regards.
ThomasFuchs
Registered User
Today i uploaded solomon islands and philippines than start with palestina after that i need a break again.