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features should be in pes5/we9

Dan

Woo Woo Woo
-Improved Headers And Keppers
-Lisences (even if it is the french and german leagues)
-A Selection Of Sponsors (even if they are made up its better than plain strips)
-New Leagues
-Media
-Morale (Players Who Dont Get There Game Dont Play Aswell)
-Teams Like Man Utd Are Much Harder To Play Against
-Champions League Matches Should Be Hard To Play In Aswell As Derby Matches
-Teams Should Buy Big Players And Play There Youngsters(it annoys me that they dont)
 

adam voorhees

Registered User
my 2 cents:

Hire / fire staff - Much like in management games. better the coaching staff the better younger players improve and players co-operation with each other also goes up, this also removes the need to do those annoying training sessions every week to get the best outta the youngsters. Medical staff, the better the quicker injuried players recover. Scouts who recommend players, good young prospects, ace players whose contracts are soon to be up. PR man, the better your clubs PR the more chance you have of signing good players. Youth coaches, better the staff the better young players you have coming through the ranks, we could then decide to sign them to pro contracts or let them go on the market.

Better referees - I know this has been said and i totally agree the refs AI should be increased.

No more duplicate players in ML - This is just stupid

Option to decide wether classic players are available in an ML season.

Actual league play - Play through a premiership season, then try and quailify for europe, with cup domestic matches etc included. If EA's FIFA can squeeze all these teams in why can't Konami?

Some sort of money system for buying and selling players, the points system is ok but feel money would create a more realistic feel.

I also strongly agree with other suggestions surrounding the atomsphere of the game during matches (chants, booing, songs) but this is secondary although seems to be a good idea that surely chouldn't be that difficult to implement.

Also just read about players morale issues, think this could be further implemented with the coaching staff idea (better man management) and also players could have characteristics like in TCM 2005 (hot headed, always wants 1st team spot, inflexiable / flexable, team player, loyal etc) this would also make it really difficult to manage an all star team (hello Real Madrid type scenerios).

Sorry if any / all of these have been mentioned but I read upto page 4 of this topic and got bored with all the comestic bs (balls, nets, diving, fighting etc), in my humble opinion there are more important tweaks which would help move this already excellent game forward.
 

amolbhatia100

Registered User
BazHilder said:
Yeah, they have that push/body check thing that the computer always does to me but i want to be able to do it back!

I've always thought the right analog stick could be for bad fouls. If you have the ball you could nudge down on the stick and fling an elbow or pull a shirt or something without the ball. It's certainly make a worthy addition to the pes shop.
thats actually an intersting idea.. the right analog is pretty useless at the moment.. it really doesnt do much that is used alot in the game.. i could be used for various physical movements... eg. if your striker receieving a pass or a long ball with your back to the defender.. you can push the analog stick left to back into him... similarly if your defending, pushing the analog stick down could have the defender trying to shrug the winger off...or using his shoulders to brush him off the ball...
ahh maybe its just rubbish
 

Barry

Registered User
adam voorhees said:
my 2 cents:

Hire / fire staff - Much like in management games. better the coaching staff the better younger players improve and players co-operation with each other also goes up, this also removes the need to do those annoying training sessions every week to get the best outta the youngsters. Medical staff, the better the quicker injuried players recover. Scouts who recommend players, good young prospects, ace players whose contracts are soon to be up. PR man, the better your clubs PR the more chance you have of signing good players. Youth coaches, better the staff the better young players you have coming through the ranks, we could then decide to sign them to pro contracts or let them go on the market.

Better referees - I know this has been said and i totally agree the refs AI should be increased.

No more duplicate players in ML - This is just stupid

Option to decide wether classic players are available in an ML season.

Actual league play - Play through a premiership season, then try and quailify for europe, with cup domestic matches etc included. If EA's FIFA can squeeze all these teams in why can't Konami?

Some sort of money system for buying and selling players, the points system is ok but feel money would create a more realistic feel.

I also strongly agree with other suggestions surrounding the atomsphere of the game during matches (chants, booing, songs) but this is secondary although seems to be a good idea that surely chouldn't be that difficult to implement.

Also just read about players morale issues, think this could be further implemented with the coaching staff idea (better man management) and also players could have characteristics like in TCM 2005 (hot headed, always wants 1st team spot, inflexiable / flexable, team player, loyal etc) this would also make it really difficult to manage an all star team (hello Real Madrid type scenerios).

Sorry if any / all of these have been mentioned but I read upto page 4 of this topic and got bored with all the comestic bs (balls, nets, diving, fighting etc), in my humble opinion there are more important tweaks which would help move this already excellent game forward.

Good post, only thing I dont agree with is that players morale issue. However, they should make it harder to manage the best teams like Real,AC etcetera.

BTW, did anyone hear about this new move that a Brasilian player pulled during an under 17 tournament in Venezuela?
This player,his name is Kerlon, flicks the ball in the air and runs with it like it is tied to his forehead.
He does it quite systematically, a few times in every game, and his control is amazing, he can make fast runs with the ball on his head and even change directions.

Apparently its called the Seal Dribble, no laughing matter for his opposition though. This trick is hard to legally stop, but some refs said: If you do that trick youll get a yellow card. I find that understandable, since how are going to stop such a thing?

He either gets fouled, or a good oppurtunity to score. He was chosen best player of the tournament, the guy isnt just a clown, mind you.
 

Gun_Runner

100Gunz-100Clipz
With the right analog stick it would be cool if you could pull the other players shirt and hold him back or something.....or when you are attacking and the opponent tackles you, you are able to dive....but not like this is football diving(looks pathetic) because it would add to the realism of PES/WE-coz its not as if it dont happen in real footy;)
 

cadburyho

Registered User
Increase the number of teams for knock out tournaments. 64 for international ,128 for Clubs. We should get all the teams involved.
 

therush

Registered User
Improvements I would like to see in PES5:

Improved/more challeging keeper AI.
More skills/dribles.
Smoother gameflow (like WE8 Int.) Better animations.
Improvements of crowd (chants/singing, waves, firework etc.) + substitution players running at the sideline and coach walking back & forth at the sideline yelling, players getting briefed by coach during matches.
Fixed the morph issue where players morph trough each other, grass etc.
Fixed the sometimes wrong offside´s, throwins, goalkicks/corner decesions.
More dynamic weather. Snowpitch very missed¨.
Better longer replays with speed´o´meter, wind stats etc.
Indoor pitches.
Full licensed players, stadium, real kits + 3rd kit, updated boots.
More IRL club/national tournaments to play.
Halftime entertainment in matches, cheerleaders, mascots etc.
BETTER commentators...! :)
Online play (PC, and reducing the lag issue as much as possible + more matchoptions)
Bigger/new challenges in Master League.

Thats juts some of my ideas.
 

DIEXEL

New Member
Full licensed to all leagues and to all national teams.

And I want at least 20 new stadiums.. and full licensed league in Argentina and Brazil!!

That would be cool to play with Boca Juniors, River Plate or Independiente, Santos, Sao Paulo in a season!

What I hate with PES4 is the fucking points system...
 

Stephen753

Registered User
making PE5 better

STOP THE COMPUTER CHEATING!!!!!
what do i mean, well im a master on pro evo series and i play on level 6. i can easily win most matches BUT the only time i loose is when the computer ai cheats. How does it cheat you ask? It cheats in various ways....When im england and a iranian defender with a speed rating of 4 can catch and disposses micheal owen but when their striker who has a speed rating of 5 cannot be caught by ashley cole who has a speed rating of 8 it makes me mad. ALSO how come, every deflection goes to the computer players? when they shoot at goal the ball ALWAYS goes back to one of thier players but when i shoot It goes back to THIER players! even passes on the pitch bounce back to the opposition. ALSO when i shoot at goal the player regardless of his shooting ability ALWAYS (misses) 2ft from the bottom post. Evertim i shoot? When the AI cheats the game is literall un playable and i turn it off. Its just a shame konami cant program decent AI and give me a good game rather than beating me by cheating. Its like making Gran turismo harder by making your front wheel drop off. Pants
 

FiGuEiRiNhA

Registered User
My thoughts:
-we could edit the kits, not only with the templates but we can edit the kit, like put something in the sleeves or in the back of the shirt...
-Not a gamebreaker but good players like ronaldinho could only do special abilities if they were in a good form like yellow or red arrows but if the were in a grey arrow they couldn't do it and if they were in a grren arrow they do it but slowly...
 

RedBlooded

Registered User
I haven't read the whole thread, but I think most people are being too optmistic!

I agree with better crowd effects (chanting, graphics, the lot).

adam voorhees said:
my 2 cents:

Hire / fire staff - Much like in management games. better the coaching staff the better younger players improve and players co-operation with each other also goes up, this also removes the need to do those annoying training sessions every week to get the best outta the youngsters. Medical staff, the better the quicker injuried players recover. Scouts who recommend players, good young prospects, ace players whose contracts are soon to be up. PR man, the better your clubs PR the more chance you have of signing good players. Youth coaches, better the staff the better young players you have coming through the ranks, we could then decide to sign them to pro contracts or let them go on the market.

Great idea!! Would make it a little less monotonous when you've got dull game after game...
 

elgen

Registered User
Considering that we have make it so the game doesn't get on 3 discs, we have to be reasonable, yes.

- Have a proper and more realistic intro (like if holding shirts & diving is in-game, it should show it, but if they're not, then it shouldn't be shown)

- Have linesmen! They make this even more realistic. And yes, the linesmen should also be able to do some dumb decisions/give the main ref decisions that are wrong from our point of view. And yes, this should be scripted so it cannot be abused in multiplayer mode, obviously.

- Custom league modes! It should be possible to setup a league system for multiplayer mode. Like 8 friends can have their own custom league.

- Stats/profiles for players! If I create a new cursor/profile and name it "elgen", all my matches and stats should be saved on that profile (wins, losses, draws, RC's, YC's, Goals Scored/Conceeded/Difference, Teams Played With (and stats for that team) and other possible stats.

- More stadium effects. Crowd throwing stuff on the pitch (and once HT break is over, almost if not everything of the junk is cleared. And yes, add SNOW, DIRT, WIND and RAIN/THUNDER effects! That would make this even MORE enjoyable than it already is.

- Able to increase/upgrade/decrease ALL personal abilities also in ML mode (in PES4, you cannot increase teamwork ability, mentality and aggression (I think it was)

- More moves when it comes to the player model. I.e: You should be able to place the ball on your foot and hold it in mid-air before chipping over your opponent. Add more FIFA Street effects in it (players with high technique can perform some nice moves etc.) This would increase the game even more because it is always funny to show off to fool your opponent(s). When this is said, crowd chants to this should also be added, which leads us to next suggestion...

- Improved crowd (its effects, chants and shouts). More "space" (not just 5 chant spaces) should be able for the biggest and most known leagues (EPL, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A & Le Championat). It should also be added that crowd can go "Booo" if a player from the away team does something really bad and the home team does not get a FK, throw in, PK and "Yaaay" if a player from the away/home team does something like a badly missed shot, throw in or if the ref gives a YC/RC to a player from the away team. Such add-ons would be insanely realistic and enjoyful.

- More realistic playability. Meaning:
* A player should be able to be injured without the ref blowing in his whistle, but this should not happen that often as it can be _extremely_ abused when player in multiplayer mode!
* Another add-on would be that they add more intense matches. Like if 2 players start to argue, BOTH should get either a YC/RC or RC/YC.
* Through passes should also be improved (when you do a TP along the ground and just before the player gets the ball, he just walks/jogs along side the ballwithout taking it even when pushin D-buttons!)
* Heel-passes/scorings would also be nice and impressive. Better shooting ability... You should be able to shoot from wherever you want (when you press the [ ] button when you're on your half, it doesn't shoot, really...)
* Filming/diving, pushing, elbow punch feature should also be invented, but NOT so it can be abused! Meaning that a player should not be able to decide when to dive/film/push. It's no fun. Better to have it all random.
* Ball/goalie move(s) should be improved. Example: When firing a shot from the 16-yard box and the goalie catches it right on the line, but when you watch the replay, you can see the ball is over the line. That should be greatly improved.
* Different goals & nets. As mentioned in the 1st page, it should have different types of goals and netcolors.

Oh well... Those are suggestions that I think will improve the game even more. But yeah, I guess it all depends on what PS2 can handle and not. But then again, this is something to consider for the upcoming PES6 for PS3.
 

hunter_header

Registered User
55. introduce a striped type of kit. if theres goin to be unlicenced teams provide kits that look like the real ones, eg. nike, adidas, umbro.
 

mufcno1

Registered User
i thik they shoould have real life refs in the game and all of their actions like graham poll fallen when he gets pushed
 

Henry100

Registered User
6* is way too easy..

Features:

The ability to download changes in a squad due to transfers
Online play for the PS2
Being able to play a 1-2 before you reach the ball (so if the ball is running loose and you see the opportunity for a 1-2, you can press L1 before you reach the ball, rather than it changing player)
Smoother gamplay in general, so slicker passing, better shooting/heading/penalty taking
On field arguments depending on the players temprement (a-la Roy Keane and Patrick Vieira
Improved editing- wider options availiable in terms of how a kit/player/team can be edited

Its late and im tired.. ill think of more later
 
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