The Messiah
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Pitch sizes should be to scale with real life. For example Highbury should be narrow
features should be in pes5/we9
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i want to be able to go to another club in masterleague as a manager...
when I'm playing Celtic it would be cool to go to Rangers...
sometimes im sick of playing 10 seasons masterleague..but i dont want to start all over again... so i can go to another club..thats what i want in PES5
when I'm playing Celtic it would be cool to go to Rangers...
sometimes im sick of playing 10 seasons masterleague..but i dont want to start all over again... so i can go to another club..thats what i want in PES5
Crapweasel
Registered User
4,427: You should be able to bring keepers up for corners, at least during the last few minutes. Paul Robinson did this automatically recently when I was playing with England.
4,428: You should get a red card when you bring down a player when he only has the keeper to beat, like in real life. This hardly ever happens in PES4.
4,429: You should be able to lock the classic players when playing in the Master League.
4,430: Have an aggression rating for the players which doesn't mean how "aggressively they attack" because that is NOT aggression. I'm talking Robbie Savage aggressive.
4,431: have a player setting which makes them more likely to act aggressively towards certain players ie. Keane and Vieira. They could call that setting 'Previous'. The same goes for teams, ie. Man Utd and Arsenal, Blackburn and everybody who looks at them funny.
4,428: You should get a red card when you bring down a player when he only has the keeper to beat, like in real life. This hardly ever happens in PES4.
4,429: You should be able to lock the classic players when playing in the Master League.
4,430: Have an aggression rating for the players which doesn't mean how "aggressively they attack" because that is NOT aggression. I'm talking Robbie Savage aggressive.
4,431: have a player setting which makes them more likely to act aggressively towards certain players ie. Keane and Vieira. They could call that setting 'Previous'. The same goes for teams, ie. Man Utd and Arsenal, Blackburn and everybody who looks at them funny.
CRUZAZULFAN1
Registered User
Allow Us To Please Change The Commentary Name For A Team....we Were Able To Do This In We7...why Not Now?!?!?!
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I would like to be able to play a master league, season or cup, and if I get about half way through and I wanna see the highlights from say the 4th match (the hightlights that are shown after a game) then I could view them.
Also ability to save a matches highlights after a game if it was a great game and you want more than just the goals.
I would like to be able to play a master league, season or cup, and if I get about half way through and I wanna see the highlights from say the 4th match (the hightlights that are shown after a game) then I could view them.
Also ability to save a matches highlights after a game if it was a great game and you want more than just the goals.
Lörd TH
Registered User
had a thought last night when playing master league and the star and end of the season yuo have to sign a contract with a kit dealer like nike,adidas and umbro etc.
which ever one you choose say umbro for your club then you see a choice of styels like england home or away or like chelsea 's home and away
which ever one you choose say umbro for your club then you see a choice of styels like england home or away or like chelsea 's home and away
1. A change of angle when viewing the replay of a shot. The same side on angle is poor, how about different replay angles like, from behind the player or goal, birdseye etc.(Not from a manual replay, the one the game automatically does after a close effort).
2. Cut out all the luck the computer gets when playing on 5 or 6 *. They are so jammy and it seems like you're playing against 12 men not 11, because the referee gives every decision in their favour.
3. Better player celebrations after scoring.
4. How about when a player is given off-side, and they show the replay how about having a split screen which shows exactly when the ball is kicked and when the player given off-side makes his move.
5. Reduce the number of injuries to players, how many players do you see get a leg injury from a slight nudge in the back? Ridiculous.
6. The shooting system is pretty poor, i prefer the shooting on PES 3, when a player shoots across the ball and scores, it just look so un-natural, get that sorted. It's hard to explain so i don't think many people will understand what i'm on about.
7. Player's interacting with each other ie shouting and hand gestures etc, when making mistakes or out of position.
8. Managers, backroom staff and substitutes visible during game either sitting in the dugout or shouting instructions to player's on the pitch, or warming up.
9. Better and louder crowd chants, especially when scoring a goal, and different types of chants when scoring a goal, instead of the usual muffled yeahhhhhh chant's.
10. Better after and mid match analysis from the commentator's, like man of the match, best goal, move, save etc.
2. Cut out all the luck the computer gets when playing on 5 or 6 *. They are so jammy and it seems like you're playing against 12 men not 11, because the referee gives every decision in their favour.
3. Better player celebrations after scoring.
4. How about when a player is given off-side, and they show the replay how about having a split screen which shows exactly when the ball is kicked and when the player given off-side makes his move.
5. Reduce the number of injuries to players, how many players do you see get a leg injury from a slight nudge in the back? Ridiculous.
6. The shooting system is pretty poor, i prefer the shooting on PES 3, when a player shoots across the ball and scores, it just look so un-natural, get that sorted. It's hard to explain so i don't think many people will understand what i'm on about.
7. Player's interacting with each other ie shouting and hand gestures etc, when making mistakes or out of position.
8. Managers, backroom staff and substitutes visible during game either sitting in the dugout or shouting instructions to player's on the pitch, or warming up.
9. Better and louder crowd chants, especially when scoring a goal, and different types of chants when scoring a goal, instead of the usual muffled yeahhhhhh chant's.
10. Better after and mid match analysis from the commentator's, like man of the match, best goal, move, save etc.
RedBlooded
Registered User
No more stupid cheaty COM body checks! Especially in the box!
Less dopey players. Better long shots perhaps?
On the whole though it's pretty damn fine as it is.
Less dopey players. Better long shots perhaps?
On the whole though it's pretty damn fine as it is.
Saan
Registered User
Yea you guys are ALL right. I mean, we all want different things but we’re all gonna have to be realistic and reach a middle ground. There’s a difference between what us, the players of the game, WANT and what Konami can afford to do.
Here’s my short list of what I would like to see in the next PES… Most of it's just from what all you guys have said in previous posts but i've come up with a couple of my own ideas...
1.) BETTER GOALKEEPERS
The keepers need improving when it comes to saving long shots and not watching 30 yarder’s rocket past them! Their defending from high balls, catching, parrying shots and decision-making still needs improvement. PES 5 should have a control, which stops the keeper coming out of the box when you don't need him to.
Goalkeepers should be able to throw OVER arm balls out from the box and commit themselves more often by throwing themselves at the players' feet when one-on-one with a player. “Decision-making” should be an attribute for goalkeepers with the higher the attribute, the faster and better they make a decision when it comes to coming out off their line and committing themselves. Konami could focus on improving the dive animation of each keeper so each keeper becomes more of an individual.
2.) GRAPHICS, DETAIL AND GAMEPLAY
In the opening cut scene, teams should shake hands. Touches from International Superstar Soccer (what a game) on the N64 should be included such as the simplicity of the radar (one team is blue dots and the other, red dots) and the pre kick-off coin toss to decide who’s kicking off/shooting which way.
On-screen layouts could be improved. The score in second leg cup games could have the aggregate score on-screen whilst the game is played. Furthermore, when a goal’s scored and the games kicked off again, the score should come up with the goal scorer underneath like on television.
Improve the in-game editor – its improved a lot from PES3 but there’s still more room for improvement. Kit-wise, I think there should be THREE kits per team thus avoiding kit-clashes. Prime examples are derbies such as the Milan derby and the Manchester derby. One of Inter or AC change their shorts to white to avoid clashing, perhaps there could be an option where you could change the colour of the shorts?
Different types of pitches – the pitches should be different according to which country they’re played in. In PES4, Old Trafford’s pitch is cut and designed really oddly but Highbury has a really nice pitch layout and it is very clear. Most pitches should be a real nice lush green colour but some are just insipid and look real dried out.
The crowd could reflect the way of the match, for example if the home team was getting ripped apart, some of the fans should leave the stadium. Riots and fights could break out too. People could be on the pitch, pitches should be invaded when a team avoids the drop or wins the cup. Konami should have less of the giant flags that take up half the stands too and improve the banners. Better crowds too please, the chants and colours in the crowd need working on. Arsenal and Manchester United should have a sea of red and white supporters. WEFA games/games when played abroad in Italy, Spain and Japan should have flares where as in England, it would be more banner-based. WEFA games should be played in the evening as they are in real life, league games during the day and cup games, depending on which stage of the cup, day or night.
The commentators taking into account each of the team’s situation can improve the commentary. For example, they can say how the win will put them into the semi-final of the WEFA Cup, put them however many points clear at the top of the table or how the away goals rule will send them through. Furthermore, they can single out players who have been playing well and comment on other games being played at the same time. For example, in crucial matches there should be a score tracker sub-menu type screen that appears in your match with the commentators stating what has happened in the other fixtures and how that affects your team. PES 4 could have the commentators keeping track of the other games being played at the same time in the same league also saying how those results will affect the teams/league. If one of the top scorers of the campaign scores, how many that takes his goal tally to and in what position of top scorer he is. To be honest, the commentary is pretty awful and is one of the very few low points about the PES series. I mean, for Christ’s sake Brackley says: “And that ends the first period of extra time” after a goal replay during normal time! It’s just laughable really, I remember reading someone who posted: “How much for Tyler and Motson?” And to that I totally agree. Also, what happened to the option in PES3 where you could change the team commentary name to the actual team nam. For example, in PES 3, you could have Brackley say, “Liverpool” instead of “Merseyside Red”
Defences should be tighter and respond better to loose balls, attackers and crosses. I feel that the defences are fairly easy to run around, even on 6 star difficulty. The game needs to be harder! 10 star, perhaps? No disrespect to the makers but the computer intelligence is just too simple to predict what they’re going to do. When PES4 introduced 6 star, I bet even the PES veterans were like “Whoooah!” but it turned out to be a flop as I’m not even that good yet I smacked up Inter Milan 6-0 first time and 7-0 the second…
Any extra detail and touches such as electronic ad-boards, confetti on pitch, ball boys, stewards/police would be cool…
3.) MASTER LEAGUE
The Master League feature of PES is the very foundation of the game but it still needs some work…
The teamwork of your Master League team could be affected by how much you play each player and which team they play in. For example, if you have a regular partnership up front and then change it, it should have an effect on the amount of goals scored, teamwork and player co-operation. Free training should have an option to train your team using in-game training programmes such as free kicks and corners. Only the teamwork attribute of a player is affected depending on how often player is played but I think this could improve or worsen individual player morale and as a result, skill. Furthermore, their performance on the pitch could suffer as a result of being sidelined. Goal droughts for those players who score heavily could suffer and play inconsistently until a goal is scored etc.
Master League teams could age as the seasons progress. This way, you have to acquire new, young players. You could start with a young ML team instead of elder players.
There could be a greater degree of injuries. Career-threatening/ending injuries when a really bad sliding challenge is made or the medical cross sign could appear above a player’s head when he gets injured but play continues. I saw this in a football game but can’t remember which one. This way, players can pick up injuries without disrupting the flow of the game.
How about pounds or Euros and NOT points? I’d much rather buy a player for X amount of millions and pay him X amount of money a week rather than it measured in points. Also, the cups could at least resemble roughly the trophy in real life. I mean you’ve got a great, big, giant cup, which is meant to be the WEFA Championship trophy!
4.) CUT SCENES
Apart from when the cut scenes are used in PES4 for dirty challenges when players would jump in to break up or join the fight, cut scenes could also be used for when players miss sitters or score own goals, team-mates should console them. Keepers should be given pats on the back by team-mates when they make good saves. The introduction of managers and coaches on the touchline would be very cool too.
Players should argue with the ref more over controversial decisions such as players being ruled offside, disallowed goals and penalty decisions. There should be inconsistent offside decisions just like real life with the decisions pointed out by the hopefully (fingers crossed) improved commentary. By this I mean a player receives a red card when you and the commentator thinks it should be a yellow. More controversy, basically. And also, manager/coach cut scenes with them getting up and shouting from the touchline to show their frustration/rejoice.
If a player dives in the area for a penalty or has got away with a dirty challenge, the crowd should boo him whenever he has possession of the ball for the rest of the match. Effective if the offending player is playing away…
Introducing the teams should be different depending on which game it was. Internationals should have the team photographs and national anthems but league and cup matches should just have the mascots coming out onto pitch.
5.) GREATER LEVEL OF PLAYER DETAIL
Spitting, sweating, shouting, hair moving in the wind/rain, muddy kits as the game progresses. The pitch should get cut up as the game progresses and as the tackles fly in. Grunts, groans and shouts should be heard as players get tackled, shoot and run for the ball. Players' arms raised when taking a goal kicks and corners. Players shouting commands and encouragement, in particular, keepers and captains organising their team during an opposition set piece. Calling them to keep focused if their team go one up in a tight game.
When an attacker and defender are both running for the ball, there should be greater detail with shirt pulls and concentration evident on their faces.
Weather conditions such as snow, wind, heavy rain and boiling heat affecting the playing conditions. Bags of water should be given to the players at sidelines like in USA ’94. Players should wear gloves in the cold. And bobble hats!
Frustration of a side evident in kicking/throwing the ball away if a foul is committed. I don't have a clue how this would be done but it would be highly realistic should Konami pull it off. Furthermore, I’d like it (and I’m sure all you guys would too) if Konami didn't do a fade-in/fade-out for a throw in, corner or goal kick. This would keep the timing of the game realistic as its frustrating when you're on a counter attack or the other team's keeper has come far out and when the ball goes out of play, they're transported within a second back to their goal.
Ball boys could be added too but if this was too much to have on screen then a ball could be “thrown” back in to play for the teams to continue.
Different goal celebrations according to how important the stage in the game the goal is scored. For example, 10 man pile up’s for title clinchers or relegation savers. Players jumping into the crowd a la Steven Gerrard scoring the third against Olympiakos and getting mobbed. Nice touch, I reckon!
6.) GREATER PLAYER CONTROL
Better AI - Players automatically knowing when to leave the ball to run out of play to gain goal kick/corner/throw in.
Quickly taken free kicks and throw in's to catch team off guard. Therefore there shouldn’t be an on-screen fade out/fade in.
Players could make more and better runs too. I’ve noticed that when you break on the counter, you’re up there by yourself against 4 or 5 odd defenders having left the rest of your team behind! Also, perhaps a Madden passing system where if you have several players in front of you, you can choose who you pass to?
Or actually, come to think of it, you could use a combination of X and one of L2, R1 or R2 (No L1 as that’s the ‘pass and run’ command). Each of the possible receivers of the pass would have one of L2, R1 or R2 above them and pressing X whilst holding down the other command would pass to that player (obviously pressing X would pass it to whoever had X above their head),
For all the players in the game - Players’ technique should be improved because a lot of the players’ first touch when receiving a pass is sometimes bad, no matter how good they are. I mean, Henry, Zidane - their first touch is sometimes awful...
And if you've bothered to read down to here I’d like to know if what you think!
(-_-)
Here’s my short list of what I would like to see in the next PES… Most of it's just from what all you guys have said in previous posts but i've come up with a couple of my own ideas...
1.) BETTER GOALKEEPERS
The keepers need improving when it comes to saving long shots and not watching 30 yarder’s rocket past them! Their defending from high balls, catching, parrying shots and decision-making still needs improvement. PES 5 should have a control, which stops the keeper coming out of the box when you don't need him to.
Goalkeepers should be able to throw OVER arm balls out from the box and commit themselves more often by throwing themselves at the players' feet when one-on-one with a player. “Decision-making” should be an attribute for goalkeepers with the higher the attribute, the faster and better they make a decision when it comes to coming out off their line and committing themselves. Konami could focus on improving the dive animation of each keeper so each keeper becomes more of an individual.
2.) GRAPHICS, DETAIL AND GAMEPLAY
In the opening cut scene, teams should shake hands. Touches from International Superstar Soccer (what a game) on the N64 should be included such as the simplicity of the radar (one team is blue dots and the other, red dots) and the pre kick-off coin toss to decide who’s kicking off/shooting which way.
On-screen layouts could be improved. The score in second leg cup games could have the aggregate score on-screen whilst the game is played. Furthermore, when a goal’s scored and the games kicked off again, the score should come up with the goal scorer underneath like on television.
Improve the in-game editor – its improved a lot from PES3 but there’s still more room for improvement. Kit-wise, I think there should be THREE kits per team thus avoiding kit-clashes. Prime examples are derbies such as the Milan derby and the Manchester derby. One of Inter or AC change their shorts to white to avoid clashing, perhaps there could be an option where you could change the colour of the shorts?
Different types of pitches – the pitches should be different according to which country they’re played in. In PES4, Old Trafford’s pitch is cut and designed really oddly but Highbury has a really nice pitch layout and it is very clear. Most pitches should be a real nice lush green colour but some are just insipid and look real dried out.
The crowd could reflect the way of the match, for example if the home team was getting ripped apart, some of the fans should leave the stadium. Riots and fights could break out too. People could be on the pitch, pitches should be invaded when a team avoids the drop or wins the cup. Konami should have less of the giant flags that take up half the stands too and improve the banners. Better crowds too please, the chants and colours in the crowd need working on. Arsenal and Manchester United should have a sea of red and white supporters. WEFA games/games when played abroad in Italy, Spain and Japan should have flares where as in England, it would be more banner-based. WEFA games should be played in the evening as they are in real life, league games during the day and cup games, depending on which stage of the cup, day or night.
The commentators taking into account each of the team’s situation can improve the commentary. For example, they can say how the win will put them into the semi-final of the WEFA Cup, put them however many points clear at the top of the table or how the away goals rule will send them through. Furthermore, they can single out players who have been playing well and comment on other games being played at the same time. For example, in crucial matches there should be a score tracker sub-menu type screen that appears in your match with the commentators stating what has happened in the other fixtures and how that affects your team. PES 4 could have the commentators keeping track of the other games being played at the same time in the same league also saying how those results will affect the teams/league. If one of the top scorers of the campaign scores, how many that takes his goal tally to and in what position of top scorer he is. To be honest, the commentary is pretty awful and is one of the very few low points about the PES series. I mean, for Christ’s sake Brackley says: “And that ends the first period of extra time” after a goal replay during normal time! It’s just laughable really, I remember reading someone who posted: “How much for Tyler and Motson?” And to that I totally agree. Also, what happened to the option in PES3 where you could change the team commentary name to the actual team nam. For example, in PES 3, you could have Brackley say, “Liverpool” instead of “Merseyside Red”
Defences should be tighter and respond better to loose balls, attackers and crosses. I feel that the defences are fairly easy to run around, even on 6 star difficulty. The game needs to be harder! 10 star, perhaps? No disrespect to the makers but the computer intelligence is just too simple to predict what they’re going to do. When PES4 introduced 6 star, I bet even the PES veterans were like “Whoooah!” but it turned out to be a flop as I’m not even that good yet I smacked up Inter Milan 6-0 first time and 7-0 the second…
Any extra detail and touches such as electronic ad-boards, confetti on pitch, ball boys, stewards/police would be cool…
3.) MASTER LEAGUE
The Master League feature of PES is the very foundation of the game but it still needs some work…
The teamwork of your Master League team could be affected by how much you play each player and which team they play in. For example, if you have a regular partnership up front and then change it, it should have an effect on the amount of goals scored, teamwork and player co-operation. Free training should have an option to train your team using in-game training programmes such as free kicks and corners. Only the teamwork attribute of a player is affected depending on how often player is played but I think this could improve or worsen individual player morale and as a result, skill. Furthermore, their performance on the pitch could suffer as a result of being sidelined. Goal droughts for those players who score heavily could suffer and play inconsistently until a goal is scored etc.
Master League teams could age as the seasons progress. This way, you have to acquire new, young players. You could start with a young ML team instead of elder players.
There could be a greater degree of injuries. Career-threatening/ending injuries when a really bad sliding challenge is made or the medical cross sign could appear above a player’s head when he gets injured but play continues. I saw this in a football game but can’t remember which one. This way, players can pick up injuries without disrupting the flow of the game.
How about pounds or Euros and NOT points? I’d much rather buy a player for X amount of millions and pay him X amount of money a week rather than it measured in points. Also, the cups could at least resemble roughly the trophy in real life. I mean you’ve got a great, big, giant cup, which is meant to be the WEFA Championship trophy!
4.) CUT SCENES
Apart from when the cut scenes are used in PES4 for dirty challenges when players would jump in to break up or join the fight, cut scenes could also be used for when players miss sitters or score own goals, team-mates should console them. Keepers should be given pats on the back by team-mates when they make good saves. The introduction of managers and coaches on the touchline would be very cool too.
Players should argue with the ref more over controversial decisions such as players being ruled offside, disallowed goals and penalty decisions. There should be inconsistent offside decisions just like real life with the decisions pointed out by the hopefully (fingers crossed) improved commentary. By this I mean a player receives a red card when you and the commentator thinks it should be a yellow. More controversy, basically. And also, manager/coach cut scenes with them getting up and shouting from the touchline to show their frustration/rejoice.
If a player dives in the area for a penalty or has got away with a dirty challenge, the crowd should boo him whenever he has possession of the ball for the rest of the match. Effective if the offending player is playing away…
Introducing the teams should be different depending on which game it was. Internationals should have the team photographs and national anthems but league and cup matches should just have the mascots coming out onto pitch.
5.) GREATER LEVEL OF PLAYER DETAIL
Spitting, sweating, shouting, hair moving in the wind/rain, muddy kits as the game progresses. The pitch should get cut up as the game progresses and as the tackles fly in. Grunts, groans and shouts should be heard as players get tackled, shoot and run for the ball. Players' arms raised when taking a goal kicks and corners. Players shouting commands and encouragement, in particular, keepers and captains organising their team during an opposition set piece. Calling them to keep focused if their team go one up in a tight game.
When an attacker and defender are both running for the ball, there should be greater detail with shirt pulls and concentration evident on their faces.
Weather conditions such as snow, wind, heavy rain and boiling heat affecting the playing conditions. Bags of water should be given to the players at sidelines like in USA ’94. Players should wear gloves in the cold. And bobble hats!
Frustration of a side evident in kicking/throwing the ball away if a foul is committed. I don't have a clue how this would be done but it would be highly realistic should Konami pull it off. Furthermore, I’d like it (and I’m sure all you guys would too) if Konami didn't do a fade-in/fade-out for a throw in, corner or goal kick. This would keep the timing of the game realistic as its frustrating when you're on a counter attack or the other team's keeper has come far out and when the ball goes out of play, they're transported within a second back to their goal.
Ball boys could be added too but if this was too much to have on screen then a ball could be “thrown” back in to play for the teams to continue.
Different goal celebrations according to how important the stage in the game the goal is scored. For example, 10 man pile up’s for title clinchers or relegation savers. Players jumping into the crowd a la Steven Gerrard scoring the third against Olympiakos and getting mobbed. Nice touch, I reckon!
6.) GREATER PLAYER CONTROL
Better AI - Players automatically knowing when to leave the ball to run out of play to gain goal kick/corner/throw in.
Quickly taken free kicks and throw in's to catch team off guard. Therefore there shouldn’t be an on-screen fade out/fade in.
Players could make more and better runs too. I’ve noticed that when you break on the counter, you’re up there by yourself against 4 or 5 odd defenders having left the rest of your team behind! Also, perhaps a Madden passing system where if you have several players in front of you, you can choose who you pass to?
Or actually, come to think of it, you could use a combination of X and one of L2, R1 or R2 (No L1 as that’s the ‘pass and run’ command). Each of the possible receivers of the pass would have one of L2, R1 or R2 above them and pressing X whilst holding down the other command would pass to that player (obviously pressing X would pass it to whoever had X above their head),
For all the players in the game - Players’ technique should be improved because a lot of the players’ first touch when receiving a pass is sometimes bad, no matter how good they are. I mean, Henry, Zidane - their first touch is sometimes awful...
And if you've bothered to read down to here I’d like to know if what you think!
(-_-)
cadburyho
Registered User
Sometimes, we do see a player giving his fellow player a thumb up for a good pass. How about a thumb down eg.striker behaving selfishly and taking a shot at goal when a pass should have been more appropriate. Or a defender not performing up to par and losing the ball often. I mean under such circumstances we should see fellow players shouting at them.
Yi-Long
Registered User
Better shadows of the ball on the pitch.
Sometimes when you pass a high cross or shoot on goal, it's hard to see (on some pitches) where the ball is going. Their should be a shadow, or an option to activate a shadow, so it will be easier to spot how the ball is traveling while it's in the air...
Sometimes when you pass a high cross or shoot on goal, it's hard to see (on some pitches) where the ball is going. Their should be a shadow, or an option to activate a shadow, so it will be easier to spot how the ball is traveling while it's in the air...
