How to aiming the shot: the biggest problem of PES...
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shaun7
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Pes 12's shooting is not nearly as bad as people are saying. The thing with it is that it needs too many stuff and timing to actually turn out great.
But the shooting in general needs an overhaul because you cannot fully aim yourself. I am not talking about manual shooting. But a semi auto kind of shot, because in my view, a fully manual system destroys player individuality. Even though Konami announced that pes 13 will have a manual shooting system, I still think that they will find a way to implement player individuality in it. Afterall, Konami's manual stuff (like passing) are never fully manual.
But the shooting in general needs an overhaul because you cannot fully aim yourself. I am not talking about manual shooting. But a semi auto kind of shot, because in my view, a fully manual system destroys player individuality. Even though Konami announced that pes 13 will have a manual shooting system, I still think that they will find a way to implement player individuality in it. Afterall, Konami's manual stuff (like passing) are never fully manual.
Over at WENB, manual shooting is not an option - you have to press L2 for a manual shot and the manual shot DOES have some individuality I heard. The embargo ends tomorrow so we can ask key questions
shaun7
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So, does that mean that you have to press L2 to make a manual shot and if you don't, then you get the normal type of shooting? I was hoping for an option to switch rather than doing it on the move.
But anyway, we'll see how it turns out. At least, it would be an improvement, that's for sure.
But anyway, we'll see how it turns out. At least, it would be an improvement, that's for sure.
From what I've heard, normal shooting without L2 will include a bit of your input but mostly CPU and L2 means total freedom but I THINK they'll include player individuality with manual shooting (direction as power will always depend on individuality).
I doubt there'll be an option
jMz
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To be honest I don't think there is much fault. Take into account player speed, direction facing, the correct aimed direction, and the right power, get all those factors right every time and you'll hit the target at least. Not even the Pros can do this at will, and this is reflected in the game. Some shots are easier to pull off than others, just like real life. It would be crap if it was too easy.
shaun7
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The fault is that there's too many unnecessary factors to determine a good shot in Pes 12.
Unnecessary or exaggerated points of address in the shooting department.
- Pressure from opposition has an exaggerated impact on the shot
- You have to knock the ball a certain distance to do a power shot which is at times unnecessary
- The ball curl is at times exaggerated and at times way too low. It's way too inconsistent.
There's more but it's tedious to mention them all. Basically, I didn't hate the shooting, I only hated some points from it that could have made it so much better.
But the most annoying factor is the direction where you don't have full control over.
Unnecessary or exaggerated points of address in the shooting department.
- Pressure from opposition has an exaggerated impact on the shot
- You have to knock the ball a certain distance to do a power shot which is at times unnecessary
- The ball curl is at times exaggerated and at times way too low. It's way too inconsistent.
There's more but it's tedious to mention them all. Basically, I didn't hate the shooting, I only hated some points from it that could have made it so much better.
But the most annoying factor is the direction where you don't have full control over.
Wewillgreetu
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There is a problem with the shooting in this game, lets not try to hide that. Shooting from outside of the box is a real gamble at times, which of course it should be. The thing is though you have no say what direction the ball heads in. We can only control the power. I am really fed up with Lothar Mattahus who has shot power 96 and a long ranger skill card, hitting an absolute grass cutter with poor power.
The big problem for me with the shooting is the nature of it. Say I am running with someone who has 2 good feet like Andreas Brehme and I run onto his weaker side, he will usually attempt to hit it with his predominant foot when you know it was more sensible to hit it with his "strong" weak side.
Next problem is running onto balls which say have been scrambled away. Your player will either slide and hit it weak or slide and miss it totally. Why should I have to time that when he is running towards it? The player will sometimes randomly slide and hit it weak too, with no pressure what so ever.
The biggest problem I have with shooting has already been highlighted, which is the "strong" weak foot problem. So sick of laying on good chances to my forward in the six yard box only for him to then scuff the chance because he didn't use his weaker foot to tap it home. Sure players generally do whats comfortable to them and play with there stronger foot, whether that be the right or left side. When the goal is gaping wide though and it falls onto to there weaker side surely they would hit it? Not in this game though. I can't tell you how many times this has happened as well.
The big problem for me with the shooting is the nature of it. Say I am running with someone who has 2 good feet like Andreas Brehme and I run onto his weaker side, he will usually attempt to hit it with his predominant foot when you know it was more sensible to hit it with his "strong" weak side.
Next problem is running onto balls which say have been scrambled away. Your player will either slide and hit it weak or slide and miss it totally. Why should I have to time that when he is running towards it? The player will sometimes randomly slide and hit it weak too, with no pressure what so ever.
The biggest problem I have with shooting has already been highlighted, which is the "strong" weak foot problem. So sick of laying on good chances to my forward in the six yard box only for him to then scuff the chance because he didn't use his weaker foot to tap it home. Sure players generally do whats comfortable to them and play with there stronger foot, whether that be the right or left side. When the goal is gaping wide though and it falls onto to there weaker side surely they would hit it? Not in this game though. I can't tell you how many times this has happened as well.