How to make it realistic

[muzza798]

Put shingo down on a sofa and make him watch 50 premiership matches. just rly needs to focus on how the body of a player moves when running and turning and the little things players do off the ball.

Make the crowed louder and more passionet. at the moment the crowed just seems to be one loud roar the whole game but there needs to be a clear difference between when your passing around for instance than to your hammering it into the net or just after you score the crowed can be pumped. again cant they just set up mics at live matches to record the sound of the fans? use the premiership games to record as they have best atmosphere.

Ramdomise the gameplay up. Adriano impossible to out muscle and make the keepers pull off 100s of different saves and have loads and loads of different shot types and when the play is hiitng it make that look more real by watching how it is done by torres. shooting in pes 6 was the best on the ps2. u could have a player running with the ball but to make it realistic you need his torso and arms to move around more and make his shirt flow around more.

Stop underating liverpool. they always make liverpool bollocks and are obviously man utd fans cos they are massively overated and it does my head in cos its sooo obvious.

copy fifas franchize mode

fans have flares and megaphones in games. and run on the pitch.

keep jon champion but get a new "comments" guy and listen to the commentating on games like nba and fifa where they sound passionet and like their talking alot to eachother and say relative things about players like how many goals hes scored so far etc. it doesnt matter how long it takes to do it.

fifa is 100% better than pes in everyway other than gameplay so just look at what they do well off the pitch as they have tried to copy pes's gameplay

 

[Mourinhosdog]

I totally agree mate. There should be pitch invaisions and you could be hit by them whilst running.

 

[KingShorty]

I think they capture Liverpool perfectly, they always underachieve during the EPL season but are dangerous in Cups... PES/WE have captured that aspect as real as can be.

As for the other things, gameplay is a must but I like your idea about making the crowd more passionate. That's one thing I really miss about not being able to patch the ps3 version, the crowd is dull as dull can be.

 

[HannibleL316]

Stop underating liverpool. they always make liverpool bollocks and are obviously man utd fans cos they are massively overated and it does my head in cos its sooo obvious.

What an absolutely stupid comment.
Man Utd are not as good as they should be!
Have you seen Scholes and Carrick's stats?
Scholes is one of the best passers of the ball and his passing accuarcy is mid 80s I think.
Evra is terrible on it and so is Vidic.

And apart from Torres, Babel, Carragher, Gerrard and Mascherano, Liverpool have no more very good players and they are not a brilliant team in real life. So why should they be made better than they are?

 

[PESFan92]

The only thing i want to be made realistic is: AI, Goalkeepers, the whole "matchplay" and ML..

AI, why is it when you are playing against the AI they don't seem to, well care. I think the AI should be a bit more realistic. For Instance:
If you are winning 3-0, 4-0, the oposition start to tire and when you start passing the ball around they start to cheer.

Goalkeepers: This is the main aspect that has to be worked on. They always have bad positioning, fumble shots straight at them. They need to be worked on.

Matchplay: for instance rivalry teams, crowd react to what teams are playing, teams react to who they are playing etc etc...

ML: Instead of points have the currency in either, $, € or £. and change the whole aspect of it. Negotiations in stages. Stage one: Transfer Fee, Stage two: if transfer accepted, offer a contract etc etc....

 

[d.f.w]

when ever i play The big games in my ML like Arsenal v Chelsea, Arsenal v Man u, Arsenal v Spurs Te atmosphere is the same as Arsenal v Derby. It would be great to have more pushing an option for 2 types of slide tackles . 1 which that has the intention of getting just the ball which has a low risk factor or 2 a crunching slide tackle that has a higher risk factor. also if there was some sort of meter that went up in those games with the more hard tackle' that go in. and if it reaches a curtain point u get a push around.

A similar idea is to have an agression meter for each player the higher it gets the more likely it is for that player to do something stupid of the ball like a push or something.

I feel all of this would make the bigger games much more fun and intense and most of all true to life.

 

[john4]

Put shingo down on a sofa and make him watch 50 England League matches. just rly needs to focus on how the body of a player moves when running and turning and the little things players do off the ball.

Make the crowed louder and more passionet. at the moment the crowed just seems to be one loud roar the whole game but there needs to be a clear difference between when your passing around for instance than to your hammering it into the net or just after you score the crowed can be pumped. again cant they just set up mics at live matches to record the sound of the fans? use the England League games to record as they have best atmosphere.

Ramdomise the gameplay up. Adriano impossible to out muscle and make the keepers pull off 100s of different saves and have loads and loads of different shot types and when the play is hiitng it make that look more real by watching how it is done by torres. shooting in pes 6 was the best on the ps2. u could have a player running with the ball but to make it realistic you need his torso and arms to move around more and make his shirt flow around more.

Stop underating liverpool. they always make liverpool bollocks and are obviously man utd fans cos they are massively overated and it does my head in cos its sooo obvious.

copy fifas franchize mode

fans have flares and megaphones in games. and run on the pitch.

keep jon champion but get a new "comments" guy and listen to the commentating on games like nba and fifa where they sound passionet and like their talking alot to eachother and say relative things about players like how many goals hes scored so far etc. it doesnt matter how long it takes to do it.

fifa is 100% better than pes in everyway other than gameplay so just look at what they do well off the pitch as they have tried to copy pes's gameplay

some good points but you ruin it abit be by been biased to liverpool, they aint underrated on it, they just aint as good as you think, come on could you ever see arsenal or manu or chelski signing someone like benayoun or pennant.(i know he used to be a arsenal player) and saying that they need to improve shooting be looking at torres, well not everybody would shoot like him, you want a bunch of torres shooting clones running around, for example henry and robben always hit it with a alot of swerve on the inside of their boot and do a gay pose with there arms, if they are running around hitting it like torres it would just be stupid.

however i was glad to see by more realistic you was mainly talking about features and sounds because if the gameplay was anything like a real game it would be the worlds most boring footie sim 9/10 matches.

cant agree with you on fifa ben better everywhere else either, ive put a fair bit of time into the euro game and shooting is non existent, they hit it where they want, heads always go up and the player faces look nothing like their counterparts.

i do often feel like the creators dont have a clue about football though, maybe they watch j-league mathces and they are really different. anyways sound defo needs improving, it could sound really good and build a good atmosphere, speciialy on surround sound.

oh and btw i believe 'shingo' is a inter milan supporter

 

[Hunter]

Good thread, and you've made some decent points minus a few e.g. Liverpool comments.

Atmosphere:
The atmosphere has been a major downfall for PES games since the beginning of time. It can't be too difficult to make the fans louder and more passionate, which we all know results in better matches. Maybe with matches involving South American teams, the crowd reaction would differ from English fans, for example, massive flags, scarves, flares and colour would be involved. However for English fans on the game, the majority could wear black etc. The fans loudness should also depend on the importance of the matches too, such as a top/bottom of the league clash or simply rival clubs.

Game Speed:
Simply decrease the speed of the game as it's far too fast and quite clearly favours attack over defence which makes the game unbalanced. By decreasing the speed of the game, more passing and build up play would be rewarded as currently it is far too easy to dribble around several players.

Transfers:
As previously mentioned, I'd rather see real currency as opposed to just points, it's quite ridiculous we're still using points to be honest. I'd also love the transfers to be a real hardship to complete, therefore meaning it isn't as easy as 1 or 2 clicks. It's far too easy to sign top players now. Therefore I reckon a bit of haggling between clubs would be good, and contract clauses would be excellent, such as signing a player for £8m (not points) which could potentially rise to £11m depending on appearances and success etc.

 

[Dragonfly]

Make it harder for a single player to run with the ball for ages. That's the main thing I like from FIFA over PES, although, I think in FIFA players' stamina go down too quickly when sprinting.

 

[borrissey]

Yeah the crowd def needs a lot of improving. why not have Dolby Digital surround sound so you could hear the crowd around in your room in a 5.1 setup would be awesome.