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ath007

Registered User
Oh my god are you mental? ive just spent the last 2 nights playing PES on the ps3 and we had some of the best pro evo games ive ever experienced. Looks and plays fantastic to me, i cant see why your bitching about about a few superficial aspects of the game when the fundamentals of the game are bloody awesome. Try playing some two player games if you can find any mates.

well said, mate...well said... :)
 

The Dude

His Dudeness
i love the game but one thing i dont like is how there is only 12 teams in div2 for ml........i always start in div1 but thats 8 teams that cant be used.
 

Hunter

BELIEVE
i love the game but one thing i dont like is how there is only 12 teams in div2 for ml........i always start in div1 but thats 8 teams that cant be used.

I agree, I'm sure there was 20 teams in Division 2 last year.

PS: Why would you start in Division 1 ? Sort of defeats the point.
 

Mancity82

Registered User
My Arse!!!

Very disapointing MY ARSE!! Brilliant game, keeps getting better everytime i play it. It's alot harder than PES 2008, really like the controls and the player likeness is excellent. Got the update and i have edited all the kits,emblems etc takes a while to do but it is worth it, but thats Pro evo for ya. Played FIFA not a bad game but not a patch on Pro Evo, the become a legend on FIFA seems better. FIFA is just to easy, my 2 year old boy can score on FIFA!!:w00t.
 

slick rick

Registered User
man u 4 life

I am most dissapointed with pes 09,kenwyene jones have a bald head,la liga not fully liscence since when,cant transfers logos from previous version 08,other leagues c have only two teams that could be replaced,pes and we united,no TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO national team only when u play copa america and u cant even pick them to play,gameplay and grapics is ok.
 

trigglebeef

Registered User
Very disapointing MY ARSE!! Brilliant game, keeps getting better everytime i play it. It's alot harder than PES 2008, really like the controls and the player likeness is excellent. Got the update and i have edited all the kits,emblems etc takes a while to do but it is worth it, but thats Pro evo for ya. Played FIFA not a bad game but not a patch on Pro Evo, the become a legend on FIFA seems better. FIFA is just to easy, my 2 year old boy can score on FIFA!!:w00t.

Legendary difficulty on Fifa is so much harder than Pro Evo has ever been on the hardest difficulty setting. And you're right, BAP on Fifa kicks BAL's ass as far as gameplay goes. You're teammates are more intelligent, they pass to you straight the way as long as you're available. They do one-twos with you. It's "classic queen", as Partridge would say.
 

poppajay

Registered User
I haven't played FIFA in maybe 10 years but from what I hear, it has indeed become quite a maych for ProEvo, that said, I don't see myself changing now and I don't think I could suitably grasp two sets of controls. So, for now I'm staying with ProEvo.

I do have a few gripes though:
a) I'm playing PES2009 on my PS2 and the Master League mode is not playable. It has a bug which causes a malfunction when substituting and then a subsequent game freeze. It seems all PS2 users have the same problem. I've been playing proevo for ever, maybe 15 years, since it was ISS, and never had any problems before.
If Konami don't resolve this, I'm not sure what I'll do, cause Master League is the mode of choice. BAL is cool but I don't think it'll have the same longevity.

b) BAL is an excellent addition but in my opinion, your team mates are shit. The AI is shit and it really is a big negative. I'm in my 5th season, just signed for Liverpool with a record of 50 goals from 179 games, but still my team mates are still shit, Torres, Gerrard, the lot of em. They struggle to thread 3 passes together. It really is very poor....does anyone know if it gets any better as you get better?
It'd also be nice to be able to start your career as a 19/20 year old, with better stats, to avoid the tedious early years, when you can't tackle a fishing line nor beat an egg. The option would be nice. My plan in the meantime is to save a savegame at age 20 and then use this to start a new career later on.

c) Why did the fuck with the drag back control. It was usable last year by just holding R2 and pulling back on the d pad. Now u gotta do a double pull back with the d pad/left analog and it's very awkward to do with the analog, a tad easier with the d pad. It's really messed up a lot of my tricks :(

Rant over....ProEvo still rocks :)
 

TIGERS_FAN

Registered User
I haven't played FIFA in maybe 10 years but from what I hear, it has indeed become quite a maych for ProEvo, that said, I don't see myself changing now and I don't think I could suitably grasp two sets of controls. So, for now I'm staying with ProEvo.

I do have a few gripes though:
a) I'm playing PES2009 on my PS2 and the Master League mode is not playable. It has a bug which causes a malfunction when substituting and then a subsequent game freeze. It seems all PS2 users have the same problem. I've been playing proevo for ever, maybe 15 years, since it was ISS, and never had any problems before.
If Konami don't resolve this, I'm not sure what I'll do, cause Master League is the mode of choice. BAL is cool but I don't think it'll have the same longevity.

b) BAL is an excellent addition but in my opinion, your team mates are shit. The AI is shit and it really is a big negative. I'm in my 5th season, just signed for Liverpool with a record of 50 goals from 179 games, but still my team mates are still shit, Torres, Gerrard, the lot of em. They struggle to thread 3 passes together. It really is very poor....does anyone know if it gets any better as you get better?
It'd also be nice to be able to start your career as a 19/20 year old, with better stats, to avoid the tedious early years, when you can't tackle a fishing line nor beat an egg. The option would be nice. My plan in the meantime is to save a savegame at age 20 and then use this to start a new career later on.

c) Why did the fuck with the drag back control. It was usable last year by just holding R2 and pulling back on the d pad. Now u gotta do a double pull back with the d pad/left analog and it's very awkward to do with the analog, a tad easier with the d pad. It's really messed up a lot of my tricks :(

Rant over....ProEvo still rocks :)

im with you on BAL mode
my team mates seem to insist on chipping the ball to me when a simple on the floor pass would do, and with my shit strength and pace stat, results in me losing the ball every time :(
 

trigglebeef

Registered User
I haven't played FIFA in maybe 10 years but from what I hear, it has indeed become quite a maych for ProEvo, that said, I don't see myself changing now and I don't think I could suitably grasp two sets of controls. So, for now I'm staying with ProEvo.

I do have a few gripes though:
a) I'm playing PES2009 on my PS2 and the Master League mode is not playable. It has a bug which causes a malfunction when substituting and then a subsequent game freeze. It seems all PS2 users have the same problem. I've been playing proevo for ever, maybe 15 years, since it was ISS, and never had any problems before.
If Konami don't resolve this, I'm not sure what I'll do, cause Master League is the mode of choice. BAL is cool but I don't think it'll have the same longevity.

b) BAL is an excellent addition but in my opinion, your team mates are shit. The AI is shit and it really is a big negative. I'm in my 5th season, just signed for Liverpool with a record of 50 goals from 179 games, but still my team mates are still shit, Torres, Gerrard, the lot of em. They struggle to thread 3 passes together. It really is very poor....does anyone know if it gets any better as you get better?
It'd also be nice to be able to start your career as a 19/20 year old, with better stats, to avoid the tedious early years, when you can't tackle a fishing line nor beat an egg. The option would be nice. My plan in the meantime is to save a savegame at age 20 and then use this to start a new career later on.

c) Why did the fuck with the drag back control. It was usable last year by just holding R2 and pulling back on the d pad. Now u gotta do a double pull back with the d pad/left analog and it's very awkward to do with the analog, a tad easier with the d pad. It's really messed up a lot of my tricks :(

Rant over....ProEvo still rocks :)

Thankfully Fifa has pretty much copied all the controls from Pro Evo, so a bit of tinkering with the configuration and you'll have nigh on identical controls.

BAP is amazing. Your teammates play some fine football and pick you out instantly if you ask for the pass (as long as you're in an available postion or it will go astray). Superb stuff. Wish i hadn;t got Pro Evo as well as it's just a dust collecter. I ordered it from the UK as well (i now live in the USA), so i can;t even take it back. :(
 

neomotion

Registered User
neither pro evo or fifa had the idea firts END OF!!

jesus christ who can forget libro grande!! come on people do your home work

Man, i loved Libro grande, even if the damn game was flawed as hell. Fifa's pro camera kinda reminds me a little of this, except you play every player. But Libro Grande on psx was FRIKKIN' AWESOME!!!
 

CRODEMON

Registered User
I don't like that when you take a free kick, and it bounces off the wall, you are frozen. But if you are some good free kick taker, such as Juninho, you do not freeze at all. Is this weird or what?
It looks like some special sort of skill. "Free kick response - 1 = no freezes, 5 = freeze for 5 seconds"
This is really weird.
 

CRODEMON

Registered User
I think Konami should make a server or a room where only people with green connection could enter, like me.
Every time I try to play someone, they are red and the game is unplayable.
This would help out a lot.
Or even just make the connection light visible before selecting a match.
 

Omnis

Registered User
Anyone else notice the announcers call your country sometimes by mistake? I just lost a game in BAL with Reggina, and the announcer said, "It's a loss the Americans didn't want to take." or something like that.
 

suomisoft

Registered User
i Have To Say That I Agree With Arsenalrule This Is Possibly The Worst Pes Game Ive Ever Played!!!

Ive Been A Pro Man For Many Years, Ever Since Iss On The Snes And I Was Really Hoping For A Vast Improvement On Last Years Atrocity, But Im Afraid That They Havnt Really Taken The Game To The Next Level.

I Dont Really Care About Licenses Or The Fact That My Teams "kit" Is On The Game For Me It Was Always How The Game Plays, And I Was So Disappointed In Last Years Effort That I Was So Damn Sure This Year Would Be Better, But Once Again Konami Have Failed To Deliver A Decent Next Gen Football Game And I Cant See Them Getting Any Better. I Reckon That The Ps2 Version Of Pro Will Be Better Than The Ps3 Version, Like Last Years Was....

For Me Fifa Is Now The King Of Football Games, 2008 Was Good, 2009 Is Very Good, It Has Taken Them About 10 Years To Get It Right, Plays Smooth Looks Good And Is Actually Fun To Play.

That Last Paragraph I Vowed Never To Say.......:fplm:

I Agree. :( To me too it´s the most important matter how the Game Plays and this year PES does not reach any kind of reality concerning proper football.

It lacks reality wholly. Moves which are "part of the game" like somebody said, are vee..ryyy unreal and irritating. (Tackles, invisible freekick wall, skating and so on...)

In F1 racing games you have choice to put on or off accessories but in PES these "helpful" movement-accessories are always on! Why? Who needs those anyway? When you play Top Player you don´t need any help from in game movement-accessories all you need is freedom to do with your player what ever you want.

PROGRAMMERS: Get rid of them and fast before you spoil that good too what is left. Repair at least those major bugs. We need superior patch and I hope we´ll get it.

I´ll give 4+ to PES 09 ( Grade between 0-10).

But...maybe someday(-year) we´ll see a real good football game, game we almost all like. (I Really Hope So) :w00t
 

Blugh

Registered User
If there's one thing i hate in this game is how good and overrated strikers like Ibrahimovic and Eto'o are.
I think Konami should add a new attribute called in-match consistency that affects how well they perform during the match itself or at least increase the effect that the current one has. I'm getting tired of seeing the ball being lobbed to Ibrahimovic or Eto'o and them just striking from wherever they feel like and scoring crazy goals for the full 90 mins.

Oh and i hate the stupidity and delayed reaction times of defenders too.

Otherwise, it's a great game :p
 

unclefredo

Registered User
Man, i loved Libro grande, even if the damn game was flawed as hell. Fifa's pro camera kinda reminds me a little of this, except you play every player. But Libro Grande on psx was FRIKKIN' AWESOME!!!

I hope this is sarcastic. Personally, I prefer Goalstorm. If you want to talk about PES2009's ball sounds, that took the biscuit.
 
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