Improvements For PES4

[MatPhillips]

BigPLayer:
i suppose just spread the word on this forum!

i thought of another improvement, last night, while losing 1-0 against mate, sent through with brilliant through ball by nedved, Ronaldo lobs the goal keeper, Keeper turns sprints back, slides to grab the ball, clearly his momentum will carry him into the net giving me my equiliser? NO, he hits the invisible wall and stays out!

GET RID OF THE STUPID INVISIBLE WALL, its been on every ISS/PES i can think of, the goalkeeper should carry the ball out of player if his momentum is taking him over the line. i'm sure it happened on Fifa 2003! its so annoying!
same as they cant slide out of their areas. SORT IT!

 

[Jasper]

no,but the analogue allows for freeer movement

 

[Lord Shrimpeh]

The NPC general tactics can be improved. During the master league i played man utd who had christiano ronaldo at SB! Also the NPC transfer system should be dramatically improved so the best teams buy the best players, currently aston villa can afford totti!

 

[-henry-]

the referee should definetly be on the pitch

do these japanese people not no that the ref should be on the pitch all the time instead of teleporting to the field when a decision is made?

 

[elb0m]

1.More Teams
2.Licenced Teams
3.Mini-Football with 5vs5
4.Learn to that commentator how to speak and when a player shoots he must not say "nice header"
5.All the kits available
6.L1+X or O do 1-2 like in ISS1 and ISS2(MISSSSS THATTTT)

 

[larsson]

Well, I dont expect from Konami that they include so much teams in PES4 like in FIFA (Although it would be nice to play with a team from a less strong league and try to win the CL ). I would be happy if they put in the 3 big European leagues, Premiership, Serie A and Primera Division, maybe a little 10-team 2nd division for every of these leagues so that you can get relegated and promoted. Beside this I would like to see every team in the game that plays either in UEFA Cup or Champions League. We would have 60 teams from the big 3, another 30 teams from their lower divisons, 30 teams of CL and about 50-60 teams from the UEFA Cup, would be about 200 club-teams overall. Except this all national teams from Europe added to the existing national teams from PES3 = 100 national teams. Would make 300 teams added together. I don´t even need original kits etc., as long as Konami doesn´t change the decrypting method. If they don´t change it we would have big final patches with original kits and all names 2-3 weeks after the release of the game. People from other countries could overwrite the existing leagues with their leagues. I would be the happiest PES player of the world if Konami made it that way.
But when I look on it from a realistic point of view I don´t think there is anything we can do to "force" Konami to change something. They don´t care much about the European market, every single WE game is better than PES, Konami is very focused on Japanese players, the best proof is the fact that Final Evolution was only released in Japan.
btw That was my post no. 1000

 

[Travis Bickle]

They've gotta sort out throw ins by the computer, 30 seconds left computers trailing 1-0 gets a throw in 10yds from the by-line and then waits half an hour till the opponents have got 11 men behind the ball same with free kicks and the keeper faster reactions in dead ball situations.
-Refereeeeeee on the pitch,
-pigs heads being thrown at Figo,
-more diving winging moaning premiership strikers,
-tony adams tribal scream when van nistlepoom misses a penalty,
-players not turning up to drug tests because theyre spoilt cocaine sniffing prats
-put in fifa rulings and then halfway through the season change them around or forget about them depending on who commits the incident

 

[cadburyho]

I am hoping for an edition with more international teams. Eg in the African cup, would it be nice if we can have Zambia and Ghana.
I believe they are quite strong. And in Asia, Kuwait & Qatar,UAE
In the America Cup, perhaps Honduras, Canada, El Salvador.
It would be heaven if Konami can come up with a specail edition called Road to World Cup 2006 with all the teams in there. I am sure it will sell like hotcakes.

 

[frizzaldo]

Less Steve Staunton style defending when you play against the computer, you know every time that if the defender gets the ball in the last third of the pitch he's going to hoof it up the pitch, once in a while this is ok but it gets a bit annoying.

More control over your players when you take a free, if you get one in your own half you can be surrounded by the opposition with all your players standing miles away.

Quicker reactions after tackles, I know they've made it quicker than PES2 but get up man and play on, especially from shoulders,Henry doesn't stand around looking dazed in the box if he gets shouldered.

Get players to break from their running lines quicker if the ball gets deflected.

Tweak the offside, players not involved shouldn't affect play.(Usually wandering back after being stunned by a lethal shoulder 5 mins earlier)

Skip over tackles instead of running around them(and bring the ball aswell not this R2 chickening out of tackle lark)

Referee strictness.

Tackler can get injured aswell,also keeper and injuries in other situations apart from tackles(stretching for ball, falling over hoarding like Forlan).

Improvements outside the gameplay would be a bonus but not as important, improved management system,scouts,youth teams,stadium improvements, ticket receipts,advertising funds......bring team on tour of Asia

 

[stevenm]

* all licences - as the old saying goes, u gotta spend money to make money
*online
*martin tyler and andy gray commentating
*refs and linesmen visible on field
*say u could score a goal and the players run off to celebrate and the camera pans to the linesman whose flag is up and it shows the replay and ur offside, would b very good i think sometimes not all the time, only for very close offside calls
*make night games look like night games - look at the san siro for a night champions league game and u know its much brighter, night games on pes3 dont really feel like there night time
*better crowd noises i wanna feel like im there
*better crowd animations - not so robotic and not every single person doin the same thing
*more stadiums - preferably the bernebau
*more teams
*better graphics
*improved gameplay
*choice of different balls
*possibly have the national anthems for a tournament when the teams r linging up after the intro music finishes


other than those i cant think of much more but it will no doubt b a fantastic game.

 

[ChelseaDave]

all of the above.
Other stadiums that should be included:
Celtic Park
Ibrox
Bernebau
Stade de France
Russian one...
Mestalla
Velodrome
St. James Park
Westfalenstadion

and maybe a classic Wembley or something?

 

[Travis Bickle]

*martin tyler and andy gray commentating
.

Andy Gray is crap unless they had that magic marker thing at half time so he could circle all the players. Get the Irish guy that does the Italian games on Eurosport, that is the best commentary I've heard in years.

 

[yonson99]

Mud and Snow! Have the pitches get cut up from sliding tackles, and have players end up covered in mud.
Don't really need the ref on the pitch because the ref shouldn't get in the way, but the linesmen should be there since they just run along the sides...also it would be good to be able to see the dugout with the manager jumping up and down after goals etc...
long hair should flop about when players are running and changing direction.
formation screen: reduce the size of the text for the player attributes, so you can have all the stats on one page and the skills on another, and have the postions on the first page too. keep the little graph thing though as it is quite handy.

anyone else noticed that very few people have made any suggestions about the actual gameplay? Kudos to Konami for making such an awesome football experience, and i'm happy to trust them about the little refinements and alterations that we don't even know we need.

 

[MatPhillips]

thats because there's virtually nothing wrong with the game play!! it's just the minor, little bits here and there we want tidied up!

LIKE THE BLOODY MAGIC WALL ON THE GOAL LINE!!!!
how many games is it going to cost me??

 

[Giggsy11]

Changing weather effects, one minute it could be sunny and the next it could start to rain, that would be cool.

 

[Mental_swe]

Here is a list of things that i find annoying in the current version of PES. Most of these things are rather minor, but the gameplay would become even more enjoyable if they were fixed.



-Make your NPC defenders a bit more active,
(as it is now they usually just stand in place or even run away when you chase someone towards them).

-The same thing goes for your NPC attacking players as well,
if you have all-out attack and auto-attack on they should advance a bit faster.

-Make the computer players less agressive when you control the ball in your own half of the pitch.

-Add an optional marker for the player who has control of the ball, to make it easier to spot when you loose or gain control of it.

-The computer defending with 5-6 players in the penaltybox is stupid.

-The ability to guard the ball better while standing still or moving slowly.

-Auto passing should be more accurate, or implement a faster manual passing system.

-Players run to much, anyone who has seen a real football game knows that most players are lazy bastards.

-Players freezing in place when they have made a pass, and the same thing goes for player who are waiting to recive a pass.
(yes I know about the "super release R1+R2" but it should be possible to meet the boll without it)

 

[Robbo]

This is all well and good, and I agree with 99% of the changes people want for PES4, BUT...

Does anyone from Komani read these forums? Has there ever been anyone involved in the creation of PES posting here?

Just a thought...

Robbo

 

[Cellini]

Get the Irish guy that does the Italian games on Eurosport, that is the best commentary I've heard in years.

I think that's Billy Hamilton you're talking about. I though he just repeated what we'd all just seen, like Trevor Brooking does, but he takes even longer.

I actually prefer Gerry Armstrong on the Sky's Spanish coverage.

The best tactical co-commentators I can recall have been Johnny Giles on RTE (main Irish tv channel) and Don Howe on the old Channel 4 Italian coverage.

 

[Jasper]

any commentator is good,it's the dialogue that's the problem

 

[niller]

- Better commentary
- The free kcik walls. Sometimes they are not at all needed
- Some of the refs er way too hard
- Handballs