Improvements For PES4
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drunkensailor
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sluthams free kicks would all go wide and his crosses wold go wrong all the time and diouf would always try to dribble but never get past someone
ok folks my two pennies worth (and my first post too)...sorry if all this has already been written:
1. Better sound. We want to feel the crowd when the ball goes in the net...not the farty crowd nopises at present. Also id like to hear the crowd shouting out now and again...better commentary, players shouting (fifa is great for that).
2. A proper league option. None of this master league shite. We want the leagues to run the same way that fifa's do...with the correct cups for each country and each team/division. Money for transfers...season running on dates (august to may for example). Also correct transfer windows.
3. Pitch to get roughed up as game goes on. Bits of turf coming up...slide marks...foot prints...crap being thrown on (baloons and what not) that players occasionaly kick out of the way. This would add to the sense of being there.
4. Removal of all gay goal celebrations (im sick of my team bumming each other when they score). Inclusion of more personalised celevrations for all top players.
5. Fans invading pitch when league is won, etc.
6. Referees, linesmen, trainers, subs/coaching staff all visible.
7. more arguing with referee especially when someone sent off.
8. PLayers going over to take throw in but then dropping bal for another team mate to take it. More than one person near ball for free kick.
9. more animation for everything. More variety. Although i mist say you cant ask much more than what we already have...
10. Real 3d fans. I know this might slow down too much but hey it will be ok for ps3
- i want to see the fans all in 3d. An away supporters section that goes mental for most of the game (unless you are getting a drubbing). Id like to see fans leaving early if you are getting beat by your fiercest rivals.
11. Players making better runs.
I think thats alot of the stuff i would add. Ive concentrated on some of the more superficial aspects rather than nuisances about the game itself....but hey - i am entitiled too. Konami have the gameplay so right that its the depth and involvement that they really need to add to. As great as it is, it could be so much better.
Cheers
1. Better sound. We want to feel the crowd when the ball goes in the net...not the farty crowd nopises at present. Also id like to hear the crowd shouting out now and again...better commentary, players shouting (fifa is great for that).
2. A proper league option. None of this master league shite. We want the leagues to run the same way that fifa's do...with the correct cups for each country and each team/division. Money for transfers...season running on dates (august to may for example). Also correct transfer windows.
3. Pitch to get roughed up as game goes on. Bits of turf coming up...slide marks...foot prints...crap being thrown on (baloons and what not) that players occasionaly kick out of the way. This would add to the sense of being there.
4. Removal of all gay goal celebrations (im sick of my team bumming each other when they score). Inclusion of more personalised celevrations for all top players.
5. Fans invading pitch when league is won, etc.
6. Referees, linesmen, trainers, subs/coaching staff all visible.
7. more arguing with referee especially when someone sent off.
8. PLayers going over to take throw in but then dropping bal for another team mate to take it. More than one person near ball for free kick.
9. more animation for everything. More variety. Although i mist say you cant ask much more than what we already have...
10. Real 3d fans. I know this might slow down too much but hey it will be ok for ps3
- i want to see the fans all in 3d. An away supporters section that goes mental for most of the game (unless you are getting a drubbing). Id like to see fans leaving early if you are getting beat by your fiercest rivals.11. Players making better runs.
I think thats alot of the stuff i would add. Ive concentrated on some of the more superficial aspects rather than nuisances about the game itself....but hey - i am entitiled too. Konami have the gameplay so right that its the depth and involvement that they really need to add to. As great as it is, it could be so much better.
Cheers
You guys are so correct about all those things you wanna improve, but i believe that the main thing that has to be improved is the gameplay, and i guess you are overlooking some GROSS mistakes. Here are the flaws i think the konami guys should sort:
* the unique computer style of play: Im tired of seeing no matter what team im in front of, they just stick to the sidelines sending crosses.. and almost all of them are goals. If i watch the replay i can see rio ferdinand losing a very stoopid header with Castolo (??)...
* The always-blocking tackle: Almost every time i come to the opposite area, dribbling like a madman, and i want to make a curling shot, the computer manages to block off my shot. I know this happens on real life, but.. the ball uses to move around a bit after that.. in PES the ball sticks in its place till a defender comes and guess what.. hoofs the ball clear.. it happens with EVERY TEAM you challenge.
* I think that computer makes players who always make crosses (every one in the pitch) a little more faster (and accurate) when they are losing a game.. maybe its me, but it seems that almost every time the CPU starts to send and send more and more crosses a goal is going to come, and it seems inevitable.
* obviously, the defending its too poor.. they look like the italian team closing down with 8 men back there.. please there are teams in real life that KNOW how to defend with quality not numbers.
* id like to see some of the classic plays of the most remarkable players.. like the auto pass from bergkmap, or the super sprint from henry (but not always!!) and say, sometimes all players run like henry-oids.
* the players to be more awake and aware of the situation,, sometimes it seems that they`re losing and they just dont care.
* And last.. PLEASE KONAMI GUYS GET RID OF THAT FRICKIN' FRAMERATE SLOW DOWN!! WE ALL HERE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT!!
Thats all guys.. excuse my english.. im from Peru.
* the unique computer style of play: Im tired of seeing no matter what team im in front of, they just stick to the sidelines sending crosses.. and almost all of them are goals. If i watch the replay i can see rio ferdinand losing a very stoopid header with Castolo (??)...
* The always-blocking tackle: Almost every time i come to the opposite area, dribbling like a madman, and i want to make a curling shot, the computer manages to block off my shot. I know this happens on real life, but.. the ball uses to move around a bit after that.. in PES the ball sticks in its place till a defender comes and guess what.. hoofs the ball clear.. it happens with EVERY TEAM you challenge.
* I think that computer makes players who always make crosses (every one in the pitch) a little more faster (and accurate) when they are losing a game.. maybe its me, but it seems that almost every time the CPU starts to send and send more and more crosses a goal is going to come, and it seems inevitable.
* obviously, the defending its too poor.. they look like the italian team closing down with 8 men back there.. please there are teams in real life that KNOW how to defend with quality not numbers.
* id like to see some of the classic plays of the most remarkable players.. like the auto pass from bergkmap, or the super sprint from henry (but not always!!) and say, sometimes all players run like henry-oids.
* the players to be more awake and aware of the situation,, sometimes it seems that they`re losing and they just dont care.
* And last.. PLEASE KONAMI GUYS GET RID OF THAT FRICKIN' FRAMERATE SLOW DOWN!! WE ALL HERE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT!!
Thats all guys.. excuse my english.. im from Peru.
rebusrahman
Registered User
Ok... having not really read thru 6pgs of ideas here is my contribution. If there is more of a strategic, involved feel to the game I think it would vastly improve... so what am I going on about?
1. Training - make it have an effect on players stats. Players can get injured in training. Be able to, in a limited fashion, set some training for players like exercise etc
2. Reserves/youth - amalgamate the promising players into a separate youth/reserves league system. You don't have to play but you can promote/demote players between the 1st and reserve XI.
3. Have the opportunity to be sacked or go to another team/career mode/more management. Also have a setting where players age and retire? Players go on international duty, refuse to play and ask for transfers? International tournies effecting your ML season?
4. random player generator? Makes players with stats totalling 1700. Haven't worked out the use yet!!!! Challenges - stop a certain team from being relegated with no transfers. Get into Europe with 2 signings in January. Generate enough revenue to keep the club going into administration? Gate receipts, attendances, revenue from shirts and all. Choosing sponsors each season for shirt and and ground?
4. Basic stadium builder using PES points as well as the chance to improve your training facilities so your existing players improve more and promising players are better and have better stats etc.
5. Ticker tape of transfers and news... instead of looking thru each club
That's all I can think of right now
1. Training - make it have an effect on players stats. Players can get injured in training. Be able to, in a limited fashion, set some training for players like exercise etc
2. Reserves/youth - amalgamate the promising players into a separate youth/reserves league system. You don't have to play but you can promote/demote players between the 1st and reserve XI.
3. Have the opportunity to be sacked or go to another team/career mode/more management. Also have a setting where players age and retire? Players go on international duty, refuse to play and ask for transfers? International tournies effecting your ML season?
4. random player generator? Makes players with stats totalling 1700. Haven't worked out the use yet!!!! Challenges - stop a certain team from being relegated with no transfers. Get into Europe with 2 signings in January. Generate enough revenue to keep the club going into administration? Gate receipts, attendances, revenue from shirts and all. Choosing sponsors each season for shirt and and ground?
4. Basic stadium builder using PES points as well as the chance to improve your training facilities so your existing players improve more and promising players are better and have better stats etc.
5. Ticker tape of transfers and news... instead of looking thru each club
That's all I can think of right now
J
jag87
Guest
On the stadium front. If you are a master league team, you start say, playing at the park?! and then work yourself up to the big stadia!
Flipper the Priest
The Northern Light
LOADS more teams, more responsive controls, about 20 more difficulty levels, shots which don't float, passes that go where you want them to, no handballs, better detail in player's faces, better commentary, better crowd noises, all new presentation, better CPU AI, better first-time passing and eliminate the whole "I'll press O for a first-time clearance but instead my player goes for a slide-tackle and gives the ball away" shit.
Better throw-ins, no pauses after breaks in play, the ability to play when substitutions are being displayed, a whole new ML, updated player stats, players to be as good as they are in real life.
Apart from that PES3 is ACE!!
Better throw-ins, no pauses after breaks in play, the ability to play when substitutions are being displayed, a whole new ML, updated player stats, players to be as good as they are in real life.
Apart from that PES3 is ACE!!
just wanted to know if konami will get hold of this thread (or similar) ?!?!?
i think it would be a wise idea if somebody proposed to make a wishlist containing the points raised here, and have it posted to konami
who better to receive advice for pes4 improvements from, than their very own fans...
i think it would be a wise idea if somebody proposed to make a wishlist containing the points raised here, and have it posted to konami
who better to receive advice for pes4 improvements from, than their very own fans...
rebusrahman
Registered User
The option to turn Trevor and Peter off but turn Gabby Logan on!!! Hubba hubba!
the spanish use Euro's now.Nifty1Pound50 said:
I agree with most of your other ideas. Chants and booing at players who have been booked, also they could create a stat called Personality which determined how likeable a player was, meaning that a player with 99 would not usually be booed by opposing fans whereas a player with say 30 would be booed when they are on the ball. Also fans could cheer when a player from their team takes it by a player and they could do the "ohhhhhhhhhhhhwehey" when an oppents defender was about to kick the ball far. The crowd in the stand could hold banners which reflect on your performance, for instance, if you are bottom of the league and losing too many games then the banners could say "manager out now" or a new player could be welcomed with say "Rangers welcomes Nuno Crapucho", as if I or any Rangers fans would welcome him. I agree with your suggestions on passing, in particular through balls, which is the only thing that FIFA can really say they are better at.
Lorenzinho
Registered User
rebusrahman said:
Great idea! like relating to a players primary positions. Like put CF when creating and do what you say. Would be good for creating a forum dream team player!
jimijazz83
Registered User
Definately agree with the idea of being able to manipulate player celebrations. I think one of the older WWE Smackdown games allowed you to customise and create to own celebrations etc...
This was a pretty cool idea and made created characters seem more personal to the person that made them. For example players like Kieron Dyer could do his hand to mouth celebration.
Also I would like to see more player equipment options. For example Madden NFL 2002 allowed you to choose players apparel for summer and winter seasons.
If this was added players could allow players to wear gloves in winter and also wierdos like Totti and Recoba could wear those insane scarfes. Simple and easy idea which could make the game more life like.
Get rid of the shitty hand ball (or at least improve it), forwards only ever handle in the opponents box, and defenders only ever handle outside the box. One it aint realistic and two it just pisses anyone who plays the game off!
Make sure keepers throw the ball first time as soon as you press the button. Has anyone else found themselves hitting the button around 20 times only for him to kick the ball up the field?
This was a pretty cool idea and made created characters seem more personal to the person that made them. For example players like Kieron Dyer could do his hand to mouth celebration.
Also I would like to see more player equipment options. For example Madden NFL 2002 allowed you to choose players apparel for summer and winter seasons.
If this was added players could allow players to wear gloves in winter and also wierdos like Totti and Recoba could wear those insane scarfes. Simple and easy idea which could make the game more life like.
Get rid of the shitty hand ball (or at least improve it), forwards only ever handle in the opponents box, and defenders only ever handle outside the box. One it aint realistic and two it just pisses anyone who plays the game off!
Make sure keepers throw the ball first time as soon as you press the button. Has anyone else found themselves hitting the button around 20 times only for him to kick the ball up the field?
