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Cellini

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Jasper said:
you obviously have never seen Ferenc puskas or alfredo Di Stefano

True, well not enough to judge them properly.

Ian Wright raved about Puskas, described him and his drag back as years ahead of his time.

Di Stephano is still supposed to be the ultimate CF in many people's opinion, especially Real Madrid fans, but when would a British tv company devote a half hour to showing why?
 

MatPhillips

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Can we forget Ray Parlour??? i'll forget him before this reply is over...;)

Pele and Maradona should have their own stats, there should be 1-99 for everyone else and "GENIUS" as a figure for theirs! :D
 

earlybird

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I wasn't alive when Pele, Garrincha, Eusebio, Di Stefano, and Puskas were playing. And TV never shows the crap things they did - only the brilliant ones. Skinner and Baddiel did a feature ages ago about how crap Pele was, showing some really REALLY bad stuff and mistakes.
I lived through Maradona's era and I can't remember him doing anything wrong apart from his odd behavioural problems.
He won the World Cup virtually on his own, then went to Italy and took Napoli from a makeweight to Serie A champions.
He's a god. And was probably right about the whole "Hand of...." business.
Besty was class but never really got as good as he could have been.
 

robinho17

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hmm i lived through maradona era also...though he did some remarkable plays some unbelievable ..he did plenty of mistakes also...especialy times when argentina needed him most. World cup 82...delibrately placed his studs on a brazilian players crown jewels(red card), WC90 final(played way below his standards)..club games did a own goal,silly mistakes , so much potential could of won more but his mentality not only lead him down but also argentina. Pele did mistakes also after being hacked by a few defenders, he would get revenge by breaking one german defenders leg...wc"70" delibrately elbowed a uruguay defender in the face , exibition match head butted a argentinian player in the face ,but the important thing he knew how to get away with it..cant remember him being sent off which made brazil win the world cups.Thats a player who's smart!!
 

Cellini

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Ashley Grimes, I haven't heard that name in nearly 20 years.

Why don't Liam Brady and John Charles appear as retired players. They were a lot better than some of the muppets they have in there at the moment.

Like why have so many keepers and forwards and so few DF or MF.

By the way Classic England's defence is a joke. I couldn't stand it, so I edited out Sansom - for Stuart Pearse, and Fenwick has become Adams (Sorry all you Gooners and Yids!). There should be a Nobby Stiles in there too.
 

earlybird

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robinho17 said:
hmm i lived through maradona era also...though he did some remarkable plays some unbelievable ..he did plenty of mistakes also...especialy times when argentina needed him most. World cup 82...delibrately placed his studs on a brazilian players crown jewels(red card), WC90 final(played way below his standards)..club games did a own goal,silly mistakes , so much potential could of won more but his mentality not only lead him down but also argentina. Pele did mistakes also after being hacked by a few defenders, he would get revenge by breaking one german defenders leg...wc"70" delibrately elbowed a uruguay defender in the face , exibition match head butted a argentinian player in the face ,but the important thing he knew how to get away with it..cant remember him being sent off which made brazil win the world cups.Thats a player who's smart!!

Sorry but we'll have to agree to disagree.

Pele played in what's widely accepted as the greatest team of all time in 1970. If he stopped in bed they'd still have won the WC.
Maradona played with Valdano (amongst others) who was piss-poor at best.
 

f3n1xtx

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earlybird said:
Sorry but we'll have to agree to disagree.

Pele played in what's widely accepted as the greatest team of all time in 1970. If he stopped in bed they'd still have won the WC.
Maradona played with Valdano (amongst others) who was piss-poor at best.

that's true. i think that's why maradona was voted player of the century?
 

Jasper

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I think that neither of these players had the sheer brilliance of one man,Alfredo Di Stefano.
Both footed,played every position,voted by Real Madrid fans as their best player ever,and most important of all,Maradona emphasized that neither he nor Pele were as good as the great Alfredo Di Stefano
 

MazzaDon

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Johann Cryuff was both footed and could play in alot of positions. But I dont think he was as pacey as Di Stefano.
 

Jasper

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Ofcourse not...I'll post a Distefano site on here,you'll be amazed.Di stefano was the only player to score in every euro club game he played,and scored 4 in a final in Hampden in 1960
 

backdoor

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I can't believe what I am reading... Maradonna was/is/and will forever more be a complete pr!ck. He deserves nothing. Pele was OK, but played in black and white TV days so no good footage, and is now as corrupt as Maradonna. Cryuff, rubbish, DiStefano is loved by Madrid and noone else. Ray Parlour? Yes not bad, scored some good goals, good squad man. Would Maradonna or Pele be happy sitting on the bench or playing reserve football? I dont think, an over looked quality in players I think.

Now seriously, how the hell has everyone overlooked Stig Inge Bjornebye, the greatest left back of all time, he 'owned' the Liverpool defence. Awesome player. Anyone got his stats so I can put him in my team??
 

backdoor

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Oh yeah MazaDon, youre MIGHTY wimbledon came and played my team pre season. We are a crappy little village side called Shalford, we all pay £5 a game in fee's. And we nearly beat you. Final score was 3-2 I think. You lot were PONY.
 

yonson99

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I think Pele was more of an all-rounder than Maradona (even though Maradona was rounder :) ). Pele also did mental things like deliberately play the ball against defenders shins, so the ball would bounce back into his path and the defender would be left wondering WTF is going on...
 

Jasper

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This is a link to Alfredo Di Stefano's website,in my opinion the best and most complete football player ever.He is adored by Real Madrid's fans,as well as Argentinian's , including Maradona,who rates him better than Pele.Wee druggie Diego said,"I don't know if I had been a better player than Pelé, but I can say without any doubt that Di Stéfano was better than Pelé. I am proud when one speaks of Di Stéfano. Pelé would have flopped had he played in Europe, whereas Alfredo has played very well throughout the world. I can say that Maradona could be worse than Pelé. But I emphasize Di Stéfano was better".
Diego Maradona, former Argentina superstar told RAI, the Italian national television, in 1997.
Real Madrid were struggling before he and Ferenc Puskas(captain of the magic Magyars)signed around 1950.By the 1960's,Real Madrid had established themselves as the best team in the world,guided to 5 european cups by Di Stefano(no relation of the Dundee pieman by the way)and won the european cup at Hampden 7-3 against Eintracht Frankfurt,attacking as always playing a 2-3-5 formation.Puskas scored 3 and Distefano scored 4.He was the only player ever to score in every european match he played(despite playing every position)
Read the site.

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Bleachers/7429/

Imagine a player as good as Gerd Mueller as goal-scorer, as accomplished as Michel Platini as playmaker, as strong as Giacinto Facchetti in the tackle. Imagine a player even more versatile than "the total footballer" Johan Cruyff, more commanding than "Der Kaiser" Franz Beckenbauer. Imagine such qualities all seen in one player. And the player has the energy of two men to express such a talent. That must be an awesome scene.

While the lasting fame of Pelé helped him to be recognized as the world’s best footballer ever, people who have seen Di Stéfano played unanimously agreed that the Argentine was a better player. And the only one who deserves to be called "the greatest".
His versatility, stamina and perfection in every art of the game made him not only a deadly goalscorer, but also an excellent playmaker and defender. In fact, this all-round player is the idol of Johan Cruyff, the chief of Holland's "Total Footballers".
 
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