you make a good point there does need to be more skills but the links you give just dont fit a proper game of football. there is no place for that on a football field, imagine somebody doing stuff like that in front of Vidic, hed just give them one hell of a heavy shoulder barge.
however i do think it would be awesome if when people like C Ronaldo, Messi or Ronaldinho ect had the ball they automatically did so nice littel moves, nothing to flash but just some nice little fancy touches to flair the game up a bit, i dont mean breakdancing like in the vids. this way the players with flair would be well represented wheras at the moment all the can do is turn 90degrees a little faster than other people
Completely agree.. after playing PES6 for the past 2 years, I know the game and all the usual Flaws -and- one of the most annoying one is the one-dimensional Dribbling. Basically, Technique is nowhere to be found, no subtle touches -just- running in certain angles and cutting the ball in other directions, but NO "slow dribbles", the Types of Dribbling Moves that are performed at Slow speed.
This is why, whenever we Steal the ball from a player, it never feels as thought we "won it" -it- felt more like the opponent just gave the ball away "cheaply". How many times, has a skillful player such as Leo Messi or Riquelme (in PES) given the ball away because he knocked the ball too far from his reach.. When does this ever happens in Real Life??
I think Average players should have the same basic one-dimensional Tricks and Technique that we currently have -while- on the other hand, skillful players should have a whole bag of tricks, of options for every Different Situation; rolling the ball, shielding the ball, etc, etc..
And along with that, New Controls are a Must, we should have a New Control System to control all the Types of Trademark Moves; first-touch trademark moves, trademark shooting, trademark dribbling moves, etc, etc..
Another thing that is extremely annoying is the FACT that the player with the ball is faster than the player Without the ball, How can that be?? By plain Logic, a player off-the-ball is faster, NOT slower.. This should be sorted out in PES, as it is been in there for as long as I can remember.
It just doesn't feels as though we are Dribbling our way through the Pitch -it- feels more like simply running with the ball.. Too one-dimensional, and it gets extremely Boring after playing it for too long.
I would love it if I could feel the real feeling of Dribbling; making the Defender "bite", having plenty of options, trying to be Unpredictable, manipulating the movement of the ball -instead- of feeling like you don't have full control of the ball, etc, etc..
So, that's where Next Gen Football Sims should be Improving; one-dimensional Tackles, one-dimensional Defending, one-dimensional Technique, one-dimensional Finishing (Shooting), one-dimensional Stats, etc, etc..
It's about time we get to see some decent Dribbling Moves, more subtle touches, more Intuition, more Variations -and- along with that, it's time to replace the Old; Dribbling Accuracy, Dribbling Speed, and Technique Stats -with- better Stats such as; Step Overs, Roulettes, Cutting the Ball Ability, Shielding the Ball Ability, Dribbling Technique, etc, etc.. Identifying each essential (Basic) Dribbling Move and turning it into a precise and reliable Stat.